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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: myndreach]
#3072819 - 08/31/04 05:33 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks myndreach.
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myndreach
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Quote:
falseaddiction said: All that was left was emotion, in its purest form.
True true...this is what ego loss is for me also.
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Society
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: myndreach]
#3074728 - 08/31/04 04:07 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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AhAhAHahah, I feel for you. I have never touched a psychadelic besides marijuana, but since around March, I haven't been feeling right. I didn't know what it was, but once summer hit, it worsened tmes 100. I started having horrid nightmares (something which I have never had in my life ever before this year), and would wake up in a panic. This probably sounds cliche, but my dreams haunt me. Whenever I had a nightmare, I ALWAYS spent my time searching for how my conciousness was paralell to it, and I have very little perception as to what the difference between reality and dream is. This summer I was somehow propelled into a mental state in which I no longer feel like I experience life. There always feels like there's a vacuum in my head sucking my emotion and life out of me, and I have this permanent feeling of detachment and disassociation with my environment. I don't know what the hell is wrong with me, but I hate it. I never had this (or any mental) problem before or while I was taking an SSRI. I always wanted to take mushrooms and LSD and other psychadelics for the experience, but I feel almost certain that it will worsen my current state or I'll get stuck in a trip permanently (psycosis). Have fun.
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AhHaHaHa
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Society]
#3075874 - 08/31/04 10:02 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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You just have to keep the right mind frame. If you believe you are in a better place with shrooms, then you will be. However if you have any doubts dont do it. No matter what people say perception is based upon the limitations of chemicals in the brain. Apply the right chemicals and explode with visions, twist the brain right and you may even propell yourself into a better state. Seven years ago I was in a car accident that left me in a coma for a month. My perception changed drastically. I have visions from that summer of 2001 that are real and have happened. I guess you could say I got a glimpse of portions of the future. I went to the Gratefull Dead concert a couple of weeke ago, where I remembered a vision. I stood behind a dancing hippy with long hair and I knew. I turned to my friend and said on Friday night after you come back from the bar there will be a horrible car accident in front of your apartment and a man will die with long dark hair. I told him to remind me on Friday. He did and I stayed home from the bar. Maybe 15 min. after he got back it happened. Sounded like a bomb going off. He and his girlfriend went to help. When they came back she told me there was a man with long dark hair or it could have been blood running down his head. I stayed back because I fear if I went it would remind me of my own accident. My point is the chemicals in the brain are so crazy. It is the part of the body that we no the least about. I never had those visions before or after that summer. I have never been happy since the accident but only in that summer. Apply the right emotions to change chemicals and amazing things can happen. It scares the hell out of me.
Edited by AhHaHaHa (08/31/04 10:03 PM)
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falseaddiction
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
#3076505 - 09/01/04 12:25 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats crazy man. Sorry to hear about the accident man
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GnuBobo
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Sooo, just revisting this thread. I don't understand why one would specifically avoid psychedelics or entheogens if one knows s/he has mental instabilities. The last couple of trips I've had have been incredibly empowering. I suppose this is antithetical to ego loss, though. I'm simply trying to "feel out" what cubensis fruits can teach me. I am quite interested in exploring how my mind can be "manipulated." Though that word has such a terrible connotation. It's more like scuba spelunking around Guatemala: find your natural catacombs. And if the underwater pathways go a little deeper, darker, and further than you'd hoped, well, you've still got your equipment that'll keep you alive. It's all good. I simply try to remember, and reflect upon, the high states of a given trip. All I've seen, lately, is the best of individuals. The vision of the best we, us, anyone, you, I can be. I think about all people say about me. And I try to not criticize my failings and live up to the potential. It's all about using up your potential. Burn that shit out, bright. Don't let any go to waste, whether you're dead at 27 or 102. Extinguish, through living, your life force.
That's the path I'm trying to find. Ah, that's my S.O.C. typing again. Peace, y'all.
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reidy_vancolo
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: GnuBobo]
#3077306 - 09/01/04 08:02 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey i think this post should be stickied cos their will probably be quite a few people wondering about ego-loss i used to think it was a bad thing and didnt really want it to happen but now i actually know what it is id now like to experience it so i think this should stickied lol ne 1 else?
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falseaddiction
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I second that
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I've never experienced "ego loss" on mushrooms either, as someone above was saying. Though I have experienced what sounds like what you are all talking about on LSD. On three blotter hits, sitting in the woods with two friends in front of a camp fire just this past summer. My two friends had each taken two of them since I paid for them.
I didn't peak for around 4 hours. I thought I hit my peak at 3 hours, but then I started tripping harder and began having weird thoughts that go along with higher dose hallucinogens. It must have been right around my peak that I hit what you are all calling ego loss, I call it "Becoming one" because that's exactly how you feel.
I had no idea what I was feeling at that time, I was scared at first, but I destinctively remember my right arm feeling warm, almost like a spirit or something was guiding me, which turned the feeling of terror away. My experience of ego loss could have lasted anywhere from half an hour to an hour before I realized I was "me" again because I had asked a friend what time it was and it was somewhere around 11 when I was at the three hour mark.
I just sat in a trance for my whole ego loss experience in front of the camp fire, and am unable to recollect any of the emotions/thoughts I had at that time other than the feeling of being one with everything. It was around 1:30 when I realized I was sitting in front of the fire staring at the coals of our once decent sized fire, IN THE RAIN (I hadn't noticed it had been raining for maybe the whole time, or just 10-15 minutes).
I found my friends down by the creek drinking beer after I came back. They said I just moaned un-decipherable nonsense when they tried to talk to me, so they left to go drink and play in the water while they still had their "trip" going.
Anyway, sorry bout' the length! - Silven
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Plok
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I want some damn mushrooms.
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butterflydawn
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
#3142459 - 09/16/04 02:47 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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going back to birth stage
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the free thinker
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Ego loss = going back to the source
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The only time I had ever experienced ego loss was from a hit of 10x salvia extract and I felt no love or oneness with the universe. It was such the extreme oppsite that I have since contemplated on that salvia trip for the past couple months. Its scary as hell when you break through on the 2nd time smoking it, not expecting or knowing the level at which its possible to lose controle of your "normal" thought patterns. I felt complete isolation and the very absence of God, talk about a one way ticket to a out of body and religious experience.
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PhanTomCat
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
#3160552 - 09/21/04 03:19 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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:::The sound of a toaster popping up::::
HEEeeeyyyyy, Leggo my Eggo...! <SmerK>
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
#3161194 - 09/21/04 05:36 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your ego is your bodies life.
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Paou
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
#3171037 - 09/23/04 05:24 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ego loss is where you become lifted out of this illusion of separation and become one with God and the universe. You lose your sense of self, but gain a glimpse into reality as it is, not as we normally experience it. Of course, you get your ego back, but if you have enough self-discipline, you can keep the lessons from this revelation with you.
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Testify
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
#3178934 - 09/25/04 01:04 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey, so does "losing your ego" have bad effects? Like, if I'm going off to college next year and getting a job n such and wanting a family. Do I need my "ego" for all of that? Does it just mean I won't be selfish? Will I still care about things, such as my job, school, family? I'm still trying to figure out exactly what it is. Also, once you lose your "ego" on that one trip. Is it gone for good? Do you have other "ego losing" trips?
Thanks!
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I2ancid
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Testify]
#3179269 - 09/25/04 03:06 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, it comes back when you come down of course. If it didn't you'de be lost forever, which doesent at all seem like a bad thing when you first let go.
When it happens you'll suddenly realize all the shit that seemingly mattered to you no longer does. All drama is caused by the ego, the bigger it gets the easier it gets hurt. It's basically the most beautiful feeling of freedom you can experience. Be careful not to think too much about anything during this time, you can get into some really really deep and scary thought processes if you let yourself. This can lead to a bad trip.
Just remember, when it happens do not fight it. You probably will fight it as its pretty overwhelming and your ego WILL convince you that you're dying and this is what happens when you get close to death (near death experience). The ego kind of wages a war that you must overcome in order to let go of it.
Here are some common ego-defence mechanisms.
1: that you are dying. 2: you will never see friends/family anymore. 3: that you are going insane and going "too far".
The final ploy seems to be flashing your life before your eyes for me. This is it's last effort to hold on.
Make sure you are alone by the way. Trip sitters make things worse for me as they can panic themselves and send negative vibes. Only let extremely experienced people trip sit you.
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: I2ancid]
#3179705 - 09/25/04 05:14 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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It will show you what is really important in your life, and it will only help you, just do like I2ancid said and just totally let go, your body will try to fight it, but once you realize that it will be ok, you can have total harmony-enlightenment.
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Semp
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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: j_db69]
#3255611 - 10/20/04 10:47 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bit of a different story here. I double dosed on Equadorians from my local headshop (cause in the past I'd always gotten really weak shit) and I think I experienced ego loss, but I can't be sure. In the run up to the peak of the trip, I definately had something wierd happen to my ego. Mainly I'd be dancing to ska and looking at photographs and illustrations, but then I started digging for insight on all those big fundamental questions about life which have kept philosophers and politicians busy since the dawn of time. Eventually, I went to make a glass of juice. I was alone in the house and I had this profound realisation that not only was I alone the hopuse, but also alone in the universe. It wasn't an outwardly depressing realisation... I just suddenly felt like the whole of reality was curving up around me in a sphere, and that everything around me was a part of me. Like being in a dream, I guess, only there was an unseen, objective reality that was providing a sort of underpinning for my reality. But like, it meant that everyone else in the world is a apart of me too, that they're just bits of my own psyche with the illusion of separateness. So rather than feeling my ego dissolve and myself be swept away into the absolute... it was like my ego was a wall holding me back, and I flowed outward intot he world around me. There was no extrospective euphoria, no sense of greater meaning. It was actually totally the opposite: introspective, faintly despairing centring around the lack of any greater meaning at all.
I also saw the universe split open and reveal all the different causal realities to me, like I was observing reality on the quantum level, but that's another story.
So what the fuck happened? Ego absolution, ego death, what? I remember on the come down being quite worried that I'd never be able to go back to being normal... that since I'd had this profound revelation of transcending not just the ego, but also of seemingly existing outside of reality (and having to pick a causal reality to go back into) I'd never regain my sanity. I'm quite interested in trying to reach this place again, maybe having more of a positive and extrospective trip this time, but would ramming myself full of enough hallucinogens to ensure this risk my sanity? Has anyone ever gone crazy from tripping?
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