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OfflineI2ancid
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weilii trips different from cubensis?
    #3039286 - 08/23/04 08:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I've only ever tripped HARD on weilii. Are weilii better than cubensis? Is there more euphoria? What's different about them?

I've had low doses of cubes though, just not a full experience like weilii


Edited by I2ancid (08/23/04 09:26 PM)


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: I2ancid]
    #3040169 - 08/24/04 12:51 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

They contain the same psychoactive alkaloids, so I'd assume the trip is similar if not the same.


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: I2ancid]
    #3040179 - 08/24/04 12:55 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

wrong forum...you are good at that aren't you  :cool: :smirk:


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: TODAY]
    #3040203 - 08/24/04 01:06 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Indeed the wrong forum, but I must say this forum has more people informed about weilii than any other forum so I figure it could stay for a small amount of time. Then locked. haha.


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: thearmedforces]
    #3040245 - 08/24/04 01:23 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

TBH, i didnt notice a big difference in the weils and cubes other than having to eat less weils... a good bit less.

as for alkaloid content and fluctuations between the two... dont ask me... ask MJ


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: jahfeelirie]
    #3040267 - 08/24/04 01:29 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I disagree with everyone. TRYPTAMINE is an active alkaloid in our Weilii friends, and the substance provides a more intellectual, and visual trip. This not just a low-grade-psilocybin on cow shit mushroom. We have found the KING, and he wears a brown crown.
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Anyone hunt in newly built 'Car Wash'? One more thing, has God ever communicated with anyone else on trips?

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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3040340 - 08/24/04 01:46 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

?!?


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3040413 - 08/24/04 02:11 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

rasjoe2112,

Tryptamine is a class of alkaloid. There are lots of different tryptamines; the name refers to a basic molecular structure which is common to this grouping of alkaloids. Psilocin, psilocybin, baeocystin, and norbaeocystin are common tryptamines found in magic mushrooms. The different ratios of these chemicals in different mushrooms could account for qualitative differences in the experience produced by the different species of active mushrooms. for more info on tryptamines look here.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start...html&e=7317


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: I2ancid]
    #3040494 - 08/24/04 02:41 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

youre the man bro, that was very enlightening info. Dime-ethyl-Tryptamine is the only one Im very familiar with, although I have had friends go off on Dextromothorpan hijinks. Ill check out the site...

So I dosed 1.3grams of weilii, like an hour ago right..and Im wiggin balls dude.
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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3040824 - 08/24/04 04:04 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

1.5g wet or dry???


Edited by I2ancid (08/24/04 07:08 PM)


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3041020 - 08/24/04 04:37 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I think you might be thinking of l-tryptophan, the serotonin precursor(I believe).

I agree that this thread is *technically* in the wrong forum, but I have a feeling if you ask this question in General Questions or OTD the responses will be somewhere along the lines of

"WTF R WEILLIZ?!?!?!?!"
or
"I LIKE 2 PLAY W/ POOP, HEARS A PICTURE!"

So this thread can chill in here for now.


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3041029 - 08/24/04 04:38 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Rasjoe2112 said,
Quote:


Dime-ethyl-Tryptamine





Are you referring to DET (Di-ethyl-tryptamine) or DMT Di-methyly-tryptamine?

Those are two different chemicals.

And DMT occurs in over 400 plants naturally although it was originally created synthetically in a lab in the late 1950s before mankind even knew it occurred naturally in plants.

In fact it is so natural, Michael Smith of the univwersity of Natal in Pretoria, South Africa also found three varieties of edible seaweeds off the coast of Madagascar.
which contain DMT.
mj

And tryptamine is not active, or psychoactive or neurotropic as already noted above by others.

There is also serotonine 5-hydroxytrytamine (serortonine, trptophan and urea and other tryptamines) in psilocybin mushrooms which are non active substances, including bufotonine ( of which there are more than 190 known species).

Each mushroom according to Beug and Bigwood and Bigwood and Beug (bopth 1982) found that each individual mushroom has a different amount of each chemical within a single mushroom than from a second similar mushroom of the same species and many mushrooms have various amounts of chemicals within each individijdual species and family. The most potent being baby Psilocybe cyanescens which a fresh ounce of baby shrooms 20-30 or more can yield between ten to thirty doses in a fresh ounce of shrooms or four to five fresh large Psilocybe cyanescens in an ounce of shroom weighting the same as the one ounce of twenty to thirty shrooms.

It takes almost one ounce of Psilocybe cubensis to be equal to 3 doses of liberty caps in a fresh ounce or five doses of weilii in a fresh ounce.

mj

While P. weilii is more potent than P. cubensis, it is not the most potent shroom in the world. Even the Copelandia cyanescens at one dried gram has been shown to be as potent as a one gram dried psilocybe semilanceata. But Copelandia shrooms lose much potency because of improper drying as do P. azurescens over a period of time.

Psilocybe baeoicystis lose the most potency while druying naturally or in a dehydrator. They lose over 70 % or more of thier potency but when fresh are called Blue fuckerts becasue of their extreme potency.

mj

I have shown pictorials of the differenceces inamounts of highs of P. cyanescens before inthese forums. people need to yuse the search engines more.

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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3041039 - 08/24/04 04:40 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

If I remember the only mushroom that bears a remarkable qualative difference from others is the psilocybe baeocystis, which has more baeocystin, or perhaps (can't remember with certainty) norbaeocystin, or both- than other mushrooms. I believe I have read this somewhere. Don't hold me deathly to it. It is apparently quite strong with a remarkable trip quality about it. And DXM is not a tryptamine-(Jesus God I am so certain about this one).


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: superblingtheory]
    #3041424 - 08/24/04 05:56 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Just my opinion, Weilii seem more intense then most strains I have tried, I can only guess that the l-tryptophan  which helps in making serotonin  has a role in its effect.  Go ahead and try it with caapi  it  integrates well. :zoom:


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: hawk]
    #3041566 - 08/24/04 06:29 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Dextromethorphan is indeed not a tryptamine. It is an opiate, in fact. It is classified as a dissociative as are ketamine and nitrous oxide.

Some classic examples of tryptamines are DMT, LSD, AMT, 5-MeO-DMT, etc.


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? *DELETED* [Re: thearmedforces]
    #3042764 - 08/24/04 12:09 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: ENOONE]
    #3043197 - 08/24/04 04:50 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: ENOONE]
    #3043659 - 08/24/04 07:13 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

LSD - Lysergic Acid Diethylamide, notice the Lysergic Acid part, Lysergic Acid is a typtamine. LSD synthesis is also listed in Tihkal which is a book based exclusively around tryptamine production.


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: I2ancid]
    #3043754 - 08/24/04 07:44 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I've only heard about them. never seen one...Hi, I'm new and interested...I walked out of my house this morning and saw 2 shrooms sitting on a cow pie and I haven't been able to get them off my mind all day...


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Re: weilii trips different from cubensis? [Re: rhaze76]
    #3044158 - 08/24/04 09:18 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Gettin a little off topic, but... go pick 'em! There- back on topic. I doubt highly tryptamines need be discussed here extensively.


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