FerengiTrader said:

Stupid questions:

1a) Can passive FAE cause oxidation bruising?

1b) Can a lack of FAE cause oxidation bruising?

1c) Do wild mushrooms bruise from strong winds?

2a) Can direct misting cause bruising?

2b) Do wild mushrooms bruise from heavy rains?

3) Can bruising occur from any variable, too dry, too wet, physical contact, genetic, etc.?

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arlo.arlo said:

Yeah it works if you're not doing nsns grains ime

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FerengiTrader said:

Stupid questions:
No they're not

1a) Can passive FAE cause oxidation bruising?
Not typically, but cold can, if the FAE does that

1b) Can a lack of FAE cause oxidation bruising?
If it can I've never seen it, exempting when it starts to kill the mushroom and yeah it turns kindof abort colored from stress

1c) Do wild mushrooms bruise from strong winds?
Plausible but mostly it seems like their neighbors and random debris bumping into them

2a) Can direct misting cause bruising?
yes if it's from something like a regular spray mister with a thick stream (vs the atomized spray of the hair salon misters etc)

2b) Do wild mushrooms bruise from heavy rains?
IDK but probably, I've bruised mushrooms from hitting them softer than a hard raindrop

3) Can bruising occur from any variable, too dry, too wet, physical contact, genetic, etc.?
Contact and cold are most common. Heat, and dry, probably, but also rate of change seems to be a thing, the shock is stressful. Too wet isn't really a thing, myc can live fully submerged in water without blueing.

Genetics influence potency which influences amount of blueing, since psilocin is what's oxidizing, which will change how much it's visible for a given input. I've had batches that wouldn't blue much even being handled hard, and others that would get very dark if you so much as brush them.

Stress, especially contams, also belong on this list.

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DV8DUG said:

FerengiTrader said:

Stupid questions:

1a) Can passive FAE cause oxidation bruising?

1b) Can a lack of FAE cause oxidation bruising?

1c) Do wild mushrooms bruise from strong winds?

2a) Can direct misting cause bruising?

2b) Do wild mushrooms bruise from heavy rains?

3) Can bruising occur from any variable, too dry, too wet, physical contact, genetic, etc.?

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Here's what I know...

High FAE can dry out the outer layers of the mushroom or exposed mycelium, making the tissue brittle and more prone to dark oxidation or bruising edges.

Heavy rain can completely fill the mushroom's cellular structure with water, making the tissue heavy, fragile, and much easier to bruise or rupture from falling raindrops, wind, or handling.

What kind of question is #3?

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I thought the same thing about ? #3.  Made me giggle

callmehippie said:

Those pictures are really blurry but can you get better ones?

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callmehippie said:

arlo.arlo said:

Yeah it works if you're not doing nsns grains ime

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Im am talking bout grains

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0_tonin said:

Since today you guys were all talking about agar and agar recipes. Does anyone here add yeast to their recipe?

I have seen some recipes online that sound like witchcraft, a pinch of this, a pinch of that, like 3 or four ingredients on top of agar and LME.

Anyone can vouch for that?

What I read was that those complex recipes encourage rhizo, which to me sounds like a load of crap, but just wanted to check with you guys.

Thanks!

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Real mycologists do it so I presume it has some merit

I've done yeast and soy peptone, and never seen results that stood out. Not to say it's BS or doesn't work, but it seems to be mild if it does, at least for cubes.

Now low nute plates? That will coax out the rhyzo much more reliably IME. A half nute recipe (50% of agar weight instead of 1:1) is my go-to if I don't like how fluffy something is.

... why tf don't I just run 80% nute plates as my default. I see people post those recipes fairly often. I should switch

DoDecaPus said:

callmehippie said:

Those pictures are really blurry but can you get better ones?

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assuming this reply is for me, no. i've sealed it off and sprayed the lid with alcohol. if you select the picture and zoom in, you can see what im concerned about.

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0_tonin said:

Since today you guys were all talking about agar and agar recipes. Does anyone here add yeast to their recipe?

I have seen some recipes online that sound like witchcraft, a pinch of this, a pinch of that, like 3 or four ingredients on top of agar and LME.

Anyone can vouch for that?

What I read was that those complex recipes encourage rhizo, which to me sounds like a load of crap, but just wanted to check with you guys.

Thanks!

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