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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: durian_2008]
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durian_2008 said:
enough room to repatriate them all, on the most offensive terms possible.




you mean forced relocation?

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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Holybullshit]
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Holybullshit said:
The problem isn't room, it's resources and logistics. Not to mention the Islamic ME isn't culturally monolithic. And why should Palestinians be expected to give up the lands they've lived in for generations?



Because they haven't . Palestinians are a made up construct by he ottomans then British empire. Most people were forced to move continuously in the middle east for 100s of years. Between ww1 and ww2 there was race volition and attack on both sides to there new homes


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: vicepope]
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Nah, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Of all countries in the middle east, only 1 thinks favorable about Israel.

Which 36 countries matter enough to be on the short list? 
Last time I counted there were about 195 of us.



Israelites were banned from like 109 countries/states/cities/regions or something like that.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
shivas.wisdom said:
What do you think putting Netanyahu in jail on his corruption charges would actually achieve politically? -- if the leaders replacing him still support settlement expansion and annexation in one form or another, what meaningful change do you imagine follows?



This is one of the more insidious aspects of liberal democracy. Every few years (or 20, in this case), the individual at the top of the power structure becomes the sin eater for the entire structure. No change actually takes place. Sure, a substantial amount of the public doesn’t want to upset that structure, but for those that do, all that anger and motivation and potential for change is diffused into electing the next individual.



The best I see from Israelis is a concession that Netanyahu has done wrong.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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^^^ Is this real? Is this already in effect?

The UK Sanctions Israel!?!


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Edited by Bigbadwooof (09/08/26 05:00 PM)

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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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They're only sanctioning goods produced in illegal settlements, not Israel itself and it goes into effect in like, 8 months or something

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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
They're only sanctioning goods produced in illegal settlements, not Israel itself and it goes into effect in like, 8 months or something



Thanks bruh..

I know I coukd have googled it, but... I didn't.

Hey, it's sooomething! Isn't the UK simultaneously throwing pro-Palestinian protestors in jail for speaking their minds in public?

Fuckin strange.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Algebra is Israeli magic.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: vicepope]
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vicepope said:
Holybullshit said:
The problem isn't room, it's resources and logistics. Not to mention the Islamic ME isn't culturally monolithic. And why should Palestinians be expected to give up the lands they've lived in for generations?



Because they haven't . Palestinians are a made up construct by he ottomans then British empire. Most people were forced to move continuously in the middle east for 100s of years. Between ww1 and ww2 there was race volition and attack on both sides to there new homes



You are telling me no one in the West bank or Gaza has grandparents from the West bank/Gaza? That no Arabs in Israel have grandparents from what is known now as Israel?

You are saying for a peoples to make any claim on land their family's(on both sides apparently) occupation of said land needs to predate the Ottoman Empire?

Edited by Holybullshit (09/09/26 02:37 PM)

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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Holybullshit]
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Basically yes I am saying that.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: vicepope]
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the UK sanctions are part of a multi country sanctions taking place that 11 other countries are involved in.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g7zen0vveo

.. to take place in 6/9 months  , imo not fast enough and not enough sanctions.

imo we should have full sanctions any countries at war that have magic sky fairy (religious) elements to them or are not overseas UK territories, i am tired of seeing my country get involved in other peoples shite that has nothing to do with us.

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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: pugster]
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pugster said:
the UK sanctions are part of a multi country sanctions taking place that 11 other countries are involved in.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g7zen0vveo

.. to take place in 6/9 months  , imo not fast enough and not enough sanctions.

imo we should have full sanctions any countries at war that have magic sky fairy (religious) elements to them or are not overseas UK territories, i am tired of seeing my country get involved in other peoples shite that has nothing to do with us.



No. You have to sanction usa, and most other nations if that was the case. Never picture you as an isolatest.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: vicepope]
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vicepope said:
pugster said:
the UK sanctions are part of a multi country sanctions taking place that 11 other countries are involved in.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g7zen0vveo

.. to take place in 6/9 months  , imo not fast enough and not enough sanctions.

imo we should have full sanctions any countries at war that have magic sky fairy (religious) elements to them or are not overseas UK territories, i am tired of seeing my country get involved in other peoples shite that has nothing to do with us.



No. You have to sanction usa, and most other nations if that was the case. Never picture you as an isolatest.



im not, traditionally everyone has been welcome in the UK and still is as far as im concerned, im just tired of being in wars that have nothing to do with us and end up costing the taxpayer (me and you) rather than the multi millionaires and billionaire that make the decisions which end up with us getting involved in them (usually because they are going to profit in some way).
the class devide betweeen rich and poor in the UK is wider than ever , in the U.S its even worse.

*most ppl i know are already (and have been for some time) self santioning the U.S by going out of their way to not buy U.S product or services whenever possible.

Edited by pugster (09/10/26 01:26 AM)

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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: vicepope]
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vicepope said:
Basically yes I am saying that.



Then you are either lying or don't know the first thing about the region you didn't learn from right wing propaganda. And should "relocate" out of America.

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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Holybullshit]
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Holybullshit said:
vicepope said:
Basically yes I am saying that.



Then you are either lying or don't know the first thing about the region you didn't learn from right wing propaganda. And should "relocate" out of America.



During the Ottoman Empire, the population in the region of Ottoman Palestine experienced internal movement and significant inward migration from other parts of the empire during the 19th century. [1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians), [2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Palestine)
You need to learn better at world history and how all empires display population all the time to prevent revolt including united states, ottoman empire,  modern China, turkey, united kingdom  the list goes on. Just cause you can't complain about everyone in the middle east is Johnny come lately less then 120 years ago idk what to tell you. Right wing propaganda doesn't teach history and why governments policies are set up like they are.


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