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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman]
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ah…i misread the weight as 66.6g. oops. totally spaced on the number reference. :lol:


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: flapping_bird] * 5
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Third flush. This cake is going extravagantly



and 24h later



:peace:


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: Blizzloo] * 3
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Looks like a snail.


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: COgrower]
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Indeed
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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: Blizzloo] * 6
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These are finally coming along. What slow growers!



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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman] * 2
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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: callmehippie] * 3
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I now have a little over 25gs dried from those 12 cakes I was so worried about earlier on this thread  :lol: And more on the way from some cakes on their small third (or fourth?) flush.

Currently sterilizing 8 more BRF jars and will knock them up tomorrow to get going on a new project and hopefully refine my methods. At this point a lot of the stress is gone that I had with my first attempt. Certainly not an amazing yield or anything but I was fully expecting to spectacularly fail on my very first attempt so I am pretty happy with roughly an oz dried!


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman] * 1
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Excellent results from an noble undertaking

:mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman]
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neuroshaman said:
These are finally coming along. What slow growers!




Those are beautiful!! Way to go!


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman] * 1
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neuroshaman said:
I now have a little over 25gs dried from those 12 cakes I was so worried about earlier on this thread  :lol: And more on the way from some cakes on their small third (or fourth?) flush.

Currently sterilizing 8 more BRF jars and will knock them up tomorrow to get going on a new project and hopefully refine my methods. At this point a lot of the stress is gone that I had with my first attempt. Certainly not an amazing yield or anything but I was fully expecting to spectacularly fail on my very first attempt so I am pretty happy with roughly an oz dried!



This is why I love pf tek  so much. Even when you think there's no wayin hell I'm going to pull this off..

your chances are actually really good with the tek.

And as you said. after one or two runs.

all the stress and micromanaging goes away and you get to start having fun with it.

Next thing you know you'll be on a roll and you'll be producing pf cakes like a pro.


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: callmehippie] * 3
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Some cakes on flush #3 or 4 (honestly have lost track of each cake at this point) looking like they'll be ready to harvest soon



Not making the biggest fruits in these later flushes, but at this point I'm going to let them keep doing their thing!


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman] * 4
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reviving this thread, cuz it needs to stay alive!

There is still time to join the competition in Cake Wars II - just gotta commit and inoculate by May 1. Winners will be announced on July 1. Fabulous prizes to be distributed!

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I guess I’m back in the game of growing after a month or so break, am now growing some PF cakes as a non-competitive grow-along with Cake Wars II.

Fifteen 1/2 pint wide-mouth PF cakes with 15 different varieties! Hoping to get **hundreds** of good spore prints for giveaways & trading.

Last time I did cakes, during the first Cake Wars, I was easily able to print most of the caps 5 or 6 times successively at 12-hrs for each set of prints. Only stopped printing ‘em because I finally decided enough was enough…still have tons of prints of those varieties available for giveaways.

This time, I inoculated using disposable 3mL plastic droppers & to do it that way, I opened each jar’s lid in front of my flow hood and dripped the spore solution around the edges and top of the cake. I did not use a dry layer on top, as I have mocropore tape over the holes in the lids. After inoculation, I placed plastic wrap - held in place with a rubber band - over the top of the lid & rings, and the  poked a single hole in the plastic with a toothpick. This allows gas exchange with minimal risk of drying out - has worked pretty well for me in the past.

My solutions were all old: all but 2 were solutions I had made nearly 2 years ago and have kept them in centrifuge tubes (30mL and 70mL) the refrigerator. The other two were syringes, but I didn't want to use needles, so I squirted the solutions into clean centrifuge tubes and then droppered the solutions onto the cakes in the same way as for the other cakes.  I expect to lose a few to contamination - def won’t hurt my feelings if I do.

My cakes were made using coarse vermiculite, home-ground brown rice flour (using a magic bullet blender) and water.

Anyway, inoculated today - will document the grows here and some over in Cake Wars II.


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: flapping_bird] * 2
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Good to hear from you FB! Thanks for reviving this thread. I'm giving a second go around with GT LC I purchased from the same vendor as the first time. They had a half off deal so I figured why not...

Literally everything I have done (including my water tub, etc.) is identical but everything seems to be stalled out. I am 3 and a half weeks post-birth at this point and have a few small pins but even they seem to be stalled. Here are some pics from right after I misted this morning.





While the cakes were colonizing, they did have a day where I was gone and the temp in my house dropped to 58F. But that was just a day and besides that they've been in the 72-76F range. Could that have somehow messed with them? I would think not but that truly is the only thing I've done differently this time around.

I am definitely a little frustrated after thinking I had the basics figured out :lol: Was fully planning on another successful PF grow where I would take some spore prints and then move on to agar work in the near future.

I'm going to probably dunk these cakes again in the next few days if I don't see any promising growth but I am definitely scratching my head and don't have a ton of hope for these. Just truly not sure what went wrong


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman] * 1
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Hey neuroshaman! Good to see ya, friend!

You didn’t ask me, I wouldn’t recommend doing anything at all with those cakes right now - I think they’ll come around.  Maybe just keep ‘em humid with occasional misting.

IME, stalling is often due to temps that are a bit low, othertimes due to infection with something. When it’s an infection, individual grows can stall, but rarely simultaneously affects many individual grows equally, so I doubt that is what is likely going on. PF tek is just slow - or feels like it!

On my cake wars (I) grows, I tracked the time required and found that PF cakes seem to kind of front-load the boring waiting part of a grow, while the cakes consolidate, but tracked pretty OK with shoebox timelines…a bit longer in general.

Peace to you, friend!


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: flapping_bird]
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I really appreciate the advice! I'll at least give it another week or so to see if anything's doing. Feels like the mushrooms are trying to take me down a notch after my first grow had me feeling a little cocky :strokebeard:


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman] * 1
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:smile: yeah, I know what you mean…teaching us lessons and shit! :smile: Peace to you, friend! Glad you’re here.


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: flapping_bird] * 1
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Hoping to find an answer here. Doing pf tek in 7qt unmodded tubs. Struggling with understanding how to go about fruiting them. With the unmodded tubs, can I get away with not putting holes in the bottom, with perlite? I have seen a few things, sgfc with perlite, some with verm (which was my original plan til I got told that was wrong and to do water tub instead) then, the water tub is completely new to me, only having learned about it the other day. I would love to be able to have something ideally I can set and forget, or at most only have to mist a few times a day. Could someone walk me through how to set up a shoebox size tub for fruiting?


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: EgoDeathDoll]
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I can try. If you’re going to use 6qt or 7qt shoeboxes, your cakes are going to be pretty cramped for space, but if you only put one in each shoebox and put another shoebox over the top (“dubtub” style), it ought to work fine in my opinion. How long you can leave them alone will be something you’ll have to figure out by trial and error.

With your intended 6-or-7 qt dubtubs, put about an inch of tap water in the bottom of one tub.  You now need to find a way to set your cakes into the shoebox so that they are not in direct contact with the water.  I set my cakes into upturned plastic lids on a rack above the water.  You could try to put widemouth jar rings down as a pedestal on wich to place your cakes in lids. However you do it, set your vermiculite or coir covered cakes into the bottom of the tub in a way that the cakes themselves are not in direct contact with the water. Then put the dubtub top in place and let them set….that’s kinda all there is.

A larger water tub might be way easier because you can use a cooling rack…same principle…put a layer of water in the bottom, your cakes elevated out of the water, a lid on top. 

Definitely recommend reading Mateja’s Water Tub tek, and also what he’s written about keeping good surface conditions.

Best of luck, and peace to you, friend!


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: flapping_bird] * 1
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Thanks so, I guess this needs a bit more detail.

After posting tubs with only 2 cakes per tub, was told to combine to 3 or 4. But, really didnt like how cramped they were and did go back to 2 per. Read through the water tub tek. Do they mean to let the cakes sit undisturbed for 48hrs?
I wasnt sure about that so have misted a few times to maintain surface conditions and condensation on the walls as they have not been maintaining unless misted. RH is 80% and temp is 72f.

Which is kinda why I want to switch to perlite. But that brings up another question. Does perlite not need to drain? Or with an unmodded tub would flipping or cracking the lid help with FAE and the potential for standing water?

I want these cakes to do well and what I thought I knew about fruiting PF was wrong so just want to make sure I am doing things right. Water tubs look fine but not every tek is going to work for everyone. Maybe the room is too hot but its at an ideal temp and humidity so I don't get it.


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: EgoDeathDoll]
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Myself, I have never tried cakes in shoebox sized grow containers. I have used water tubs and shotgun fruiting chambers with perlite. My advice is to forget about perlite and just go with the water tub approach .

In my opinion, whatever the fruiting container, it all comes down to humidity control. Having a layer of water in the bottom of the container provides a large surface area for evaporation to take place, which in the confines of a nearly closed container, should bring the humidity level to near 99%, but only if you leave it alone and don’t open the lid frequently.

You don’t need to worry much about FAE with any 6Lor 7L shoebox, even with the lids latched….they are leaky/not airtight.

For grow temps, the conventional advice is to stick to room temperature in your grow area.

What you ultimately want to develop is fresh mycelial growth on the surface of the cakes, which, if the humidity is right, will develop a layer of very tiny water droplets on the surface of the mycelium. This is what is termed “surface conditions”.  Maintain good surface conditions and you’ll get fruits.

Don’t get too stuck - give it your best shot and make careful observations as to what’s going on, and adjust as best you can. I wish I was better able to help you.  Hopefully others will also chime in.


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