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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 2
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Without making any excuses for Maduro.  We can honestly say that we don't know that removing him and putting Trumpy in charge will be a net benefit for Venezuelans.  Our track record with that shit is pretty abysmal when measured against that standard.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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Putting trump in charge of venezuela isn't even on the table, though.  I'm not sure the point of that hypothetical.  Shooting jesse james doesn't make you jesse james.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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I dunno, Trumpy says he's calling the shots and lil marco says we're gonna run the joint until some future transition :shrug:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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Supposedly marco fucking rubio and drunk ass cock pete hegsed are gonna run it so theres that :shrug:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ice Nine] * 4
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Ice Nine said:
FoolOfElysium said:
Ya gotta admit, Trump is really exposing all the bullshit wars that have taken place for decades.  Wars were excuses for money making. But Trump and Iran? In an out. Venezuela? In and out. He's proving to America these years-long warmongering facades in our past were about something else other than fixing the problem they claimed existed.


Welcome back.  Explain what was going on when Trump flew on Epstein's planes multiple times with young people who would become witnesses in Ghislaine trial?  Why was trump on those flights?



lol hilarious that FoE ducked out of here for the entirety of the epstein fallout and shows back up the moment distraction bombs start dropping.  he didn't show up to say "gee guys I was wrong, this guy is a piece of shit and threatening half the world with military action," he's here to pretend that illegally kidnapping the head of state of a sovereign state is some 4d chess.

the shamelessness would be funny if it weren't so predictable.

Edited by dinosaurs (01/04/26 11:47 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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No its the vice president elected down there in charge. But a puppet installed is better then a easy target. All the bitch needs to do is reverse 30 years of policy and nation build. The blue print is fucking there out in the open. It takes 30 to 40 years to recover but remember before the socialist revolution that Venezuela was Latin America's richest country even if it was corrupt as fuck.

Remember this when we fall, in 40 years of hard labor our grandchildren will prosper.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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I heard she started almost immediately talking mad shit saying maduro is the only president and theyll never work with the US. Trump needs to fix this shit immediately you sack of shit.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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What why has trump said like half a dozen major things you dont say out loud. Can you believe this fucking horseshit?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said:
The former VP of Venezuela has already been sworn in as president.


"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"


Yup and Trump is now saying we will retaliate if she remains in power. If he follows through that means American boots on the ground again invading a country for their oil. Oh how history has a tendency of repeating itself. If you think this is about waging war on drugs to save Americans from drug overdoses you are a gullible idiot.

Its not about fentanyl overdoses. Venezuela doesnt supply the US with fentanyl. Its not about cocaine, many countries supply way more coke than Venezuela does and the problem with coke is it being cut with fentanyl. Even if they were supplying a bunch of coke to the US, getting rid of that supply would only lead to more fentanyl being cut into cocaine killing more people.

No, this war is about oil and getting rid of a socialist country and a dictator while we are at it.

No doubt Maduro is a bad dictator and maybe they will be better off without him but its also veey possible itll just lead to a power vacuum with another socialist dictator to take his place.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
I dunno, Trumpy says he's calling the shots and lil marco says we're gonna run the joint until some future transition :shrug:


Using Trump as a source is not a great way to make your point.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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:yeahgoodadvice:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
The Venezuelan people vehemently disagree with you, overall.

If you think they are celebrating in ignorance, that's on you. If you think the people in the video I linked aren't as "big picture" as you are, then make your case with them, not me.


What case? I never said the Venezuelan people weren't happy Maduro is out.  I'm sure they're happy to have Maduro out. That doesn't mean that this is going to be good for the Venezuelan people.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Sulfurshelfsean said:
FoolOfElysium said:
The Venezuelan people vehemently disagree with you, overall.

If you think they are celebrating in ignorance, that's on you. If you think the people in the video I linked aren't as "big picture" as you are, then make your case with them, not me.


What case? I never said the Venezuelan people weren't happy Maduro is out.  I'm sure they're happy to have Maduro out. That doesn't mean that this is going to be good for the Venezuelan people.


That's why we gamble on it.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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Elyse doesn't gamble on these things.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] * 1
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The big question is now what? Let us say 80% of the people there are happy he is gone. What if you change the head of a corporation but the new guy is the same as the last guy? How does that help? Trump does not care for Venezuelans, they are brown after all. He just cares about China not mucking up things for the military and he wants the profits of the oil revenues to flow to the US. He did say that the cost of the operation will be paid by the oil profits. Just the same as the mineral deal with Ukraine. Trying to force on them while they are a victim with the security guarantee that Russia will not attack them as it would then damage the supply of minerals to the US. Like the US will put all their rare earth eggs in one Ukrainian basket. Give me a break.

So what is going to change for the better for the average person on the street? Trump said they will not allow any oil to leave the country. So that means any profits from the sanctioned oil sales that did reach the bottom will not be there any more. How long will the good will last as the same people stealing the country's wealth will still be running the country? I am expecting that The US has learned its lesson in Iraq when they tossed out the rulers and the same people started an insurgency as they had no other means of making a living. New elections? Trump already said the winners in the last election do not have enough support to run the country. What he really meant was that they were not in power and the people that are will not take kindly to being ousted. So a puppet government that retains its perks, the US gets its oil (in the unlikely event US oil companies sink billions into the country with no guarantees) along with China given the boot. What gets better for the average person there? Not like Trump cares about spreading democracy.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bunny.12] * 1
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Jesus chirst you people are just a bunch of complainers. Its like you cant do an extra-territorial law enforcement action anymore with out some sort of international incident :youseethisshit:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
Jesus chirst you people are just a bunch of complainers. Its like you cant do an extra-territorial law enforcement action anymore with out some sort of international incident :youseethisshit:


Yea it worked for Obama and you guys apparently loved it. Welcome back Arab spring.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 3
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Seriously_trippin said:
Baby_Hitler said:
The former VP of Venezuela has already been sworn in as president.


"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"


Yup and Trump is now saying we will retaliate if she remains in power. If he follows through that means American boots on the ground again invading a country for their oil. Oh how history has a tendency of repeating itself. If you think this is about waging war on drugs to save Americans from drug overdoses you are a gullible idiot.

Its not about fentanyl overdoses. Venezuela doesnt supply the US with fentanyl. Its not about cocaine, many countries supply way more coke than Venezuela does and the problem with coke is it being cut with fentanyl. Even if they were supplying a bunch of coke to the US, getting rid of that supply would only lead to more fentanyl being cut into cocaine killing more people.

No, this war is about oil and getting rid of a socialist country and a dictator while we are at it.

No doubt Maduro is a bad dictator and maybe they will be better off without him but its also veey possible itll just lead to a power vacuum with another socialist dictator to take his place.



yeah all of the disingenuous bullshit artists that are suddenly concerned about the poor people of Venezuela and the importance of removing strongmen/dictators ought to start with cleaning their own house.

trump is *vastly* unpopular at home and increasingly meets even the most conservative definition of fascist authoritarian dictator.  you want to see *actual* cheering in the streets?  send the helicopters to washington DC and start putting handcuffs on everyone in this administration, along with those in the military that took part in this bullshit.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
Seriously_trippin said:
Baby_Hitler said:
The former VP of Venezuela has already been sworn in as president.


"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"


Yup and Trump is now saying we will retaliate if she remains in power. If he follows through that means American boots on the ground again invading a country for their oil. Oh how history has a tendency of repeating itself. If you think this is about waging war on drugs to save Americans from drug overdoses you are a gullible idiot.

Its not about fentanyl overdoses. Venezuela doesnt supply the US with fentanyl. Its not about cocaine, many countries supply way more coke than Venezuela does and the problem with coke is it being cut with fentanyl. Even if they were supplying a bunch of coke to the US, getting rid of that supply would only lead to more fentanyl being cut into cocaine killing more people.

No, this war is about oil and getting rid of a socialist country and a dictator while we are at it.

No doubt Maduro is a bad dictator and maybe they will be better off without him but its also veey possible itll just lead to a power vacuum with another socialist dictator to take his place.



yeah all of the disingenuous bullshit artists that are suddenly concerned about the poor people of Venezuela and the importance of removing strongmen/dictators ought to start with cleaning their own house.

trump is *vastly* unpopular at home and increasingly meets even the most conservative definition of fascist authoritarian dictator.  you want to see *actual* cheering in the streets?  send the helicopters to washington DC and start putting handcuffs on everyone in this administration, along with those in the military that took part in this bullshit.


The words you're looking for is revolution. Give it time,great Britain or Russia will kidnap trump and you'll get your wish.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope] * 1
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If Denmark were smart they’d lease Greenland to Russia and tell Trump to go find a large, probably the largest and biggest dick anyone has ever seen, and eat it.

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