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Invisibledtowntoker
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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: Shill]
    #15639660 - 01/09/12 02:14 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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> I'll point it out again, they only have enrichment up to 20%. THEY NEED 90% TO BLOW SHIT UP.

Incorrect.  It isn't widely talked about, but you only need 6% enriched to "blow shit up".  It gets much easier to "blow shit up" as the percentage of U235 increases.  Also, the time and effort required to go from 20% to 90% is insignificant compared to the time and effort required to go from yellowcake to 20%.






80% IMO






Lol, in your opinion?  Such a scientific method,  since you're a nuclear physicist, right?


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Just because they have the uranium doesn't mean they have an effective delivery system.  Especially transcontinential




In your opinion, once again. Or maybe simply to your very limited knowledge


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15639670 - 01/09/12 02:16 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

You just wanna rip on someone, fail.

The very first uranium bomb, Little Boy dropped on Hiroshima in 1945, used 64 kilograms of 80% enriched uranium.


SO, IN MY OPINION

They wouldn't need to exceed 80%


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: Shill]
    #15639680 - 01/09/12 02:18 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Shill said:
You just wanna rip on someone, fail.

The very first uranium bomb, Little Boy dropped on Hiroshima in 1945, used 64 kilograms of 80% enriched uranium.


SO, IN MY OPINION

They wouldn't need to exceed 80%





They don't need to get past 20%.  It has nothing to do with opinion.


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15639687 - 01/09/12 02:18 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

They wouldn't enrich it to 20%, too costly to enrich past 90%

80% is a good medium


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: Shill]
    #15639706 - 01/09/12 02:22 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

You must have insider knowledge that intelligence agencies would kill for.


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15639714 - 01/09/12 02:23 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

It's logic


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15639723 - 01/09/12 02:25 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

The author of the original article is called Ali Akbar. :rofl2: I'm more worried about America doing something stupid again under the guise of WMD's.


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: snoot]
    #15639728 - 01/09/12 02:27 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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The author of the original article is called Ali Akbar. :rofl2: I'm more worried about America doing something stupid again under the guise of WMD's.





Wouldn't be the first time, and definatley won't be the last.


Plus a nuclear war would reduce the carbon footprints by humans.


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: snoot]
    #15639945 - 01/09/12 03:08 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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The author of the original article is called Ali Akbar. :rofl2: I'm more worried about America doing something stupid again under the guise of WMD's.







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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: 404]
    #15640235 - 01/09/12 04:15 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

> Seuss, if the real danger starts at 20%, what kind of destruction are we talking about here?

That is hard to answer.  The more important thing is such a device would be very difficult to weaponize.  It would be large and heavy.  It is not something you could easily launch on a missile, but you could drop it from a large plane (commercial aircraft with suicide pilot, etc), or drive it somewhere in a truck.  Given the ease of going from 20% to 90%, I have no doubt this is the direction they would go if they were going to build a weapon.  Enriching 20% to 100% is like pulling 1 red candy out of a every 5 that you pick up.  Enriching from yellowcake to 100% is like pulling 1 red candy out of every 140 that you pick up.


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: Seuss]
    #15641123 - 01/09/12 06:52 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

20% would be a pain in the ass to reach critical mass with.  It's definitely possible, but Iran will want to take it to 80+ to avoid headaches.  Hiroshima was flattened with 80% enrichment and 90% is the figure that the US uses in it's weapons (I believe).

It really depends on what method of separation they're using as to how fast they're proceeding with it.  But like what Seuss said, it's much harder to go from yellowcake to enriched uranium.  I wonder as to the extent/if they have a decent uranium reprocessing set-up. 

Reactor grade uranium only needs to be like 4-6% enriched, if I'm not mistaken...so they're definitely upping their enrichment for something else.


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: Mr. Bojangles]
    #15641196 - 01/09/12 07:08 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Ignorance + parinoia is worse than any a-bomb.


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: Shins]
    #15641269 - 01/09/12 07:20 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Ignorance + parinoia is worse than any a-bomb.




haha

At least a A-Bomb war would clean carbon footprinting (Yes I know I said taht earlier)


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Re: "Iran begins uranium enrichment at new underground site" [Re: Shill]
    #15641547 - 01/09/12 08:19 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

So would reducing ignorance.

carbon is one of the building blocks of life anyways...

c02 is air for plants.

plants grow bigger and faster with higher c02.


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