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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr] * 2
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Yeah I'm getting 12ish bags per 50 lb bag of wheat for 14 dollars , and the grain prep is so much more forgiving because you can break up clumps in the bag , I just strait simmer my grain and drain , toss to dry and load


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: the_chosen_one] * 1
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the_chosen_one said:
Better being a relative term. Some of the tweeks have lead to potential inconsistencies IMO.

#maskingtape :rockon:


No tape! The future is now old man.


I'd be interested to hear your stance on other common tweaks though. The modified 2:1:1 BRF ratios, dunk and roll, water tub vs aquarium with spray shield, regularly fanning and misting,  siphoning off excess water etc. There's lots of stuff in there that goes against more modern conventions.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Ferryman] * 1
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I ahve tried adding gypsum, coffee. I dont even use the PF TEK recipe, I know by heart and hand when its suitable. Gypsum (makes the substrate a bit more airy IMO) and coffee seem to have no extra effect on my grows, but they dont hurt it either it seems. There are no known tweaks at all, just the TEK itself.

Except poo cakes, or wooden cakes. I will do wood today, with Lions Mane.m1200 ML substrate boxes from holland.


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Edited by Cakewonder (12/22/25 04:45 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Cakewonder] * 3
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when one hears the CAKE adding coffee on a PF TEK one can't help but WONDER...
:utterconfusion:
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Lithop]
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I was just thinking about doing grain bags in a SAB I can't afford HEPA filter in a flow hood. I saw a video and they cover the filter by folding the bag but dont seal bag. I thought I would just drop some agar or grain to grain in the bag then seal with a clip.

If the bags break easily I think I will stick to jars. I been having this idea about trying to get 20lb of spawn bags then burry them outside in coir to build a outdoor mushroom garden.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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TLDR: do certain contaminants render fruiting bodies unsafe to consume?

Noob question for this Monday morning....

I've been reading a lot about contamination, and one thing that keeps coming up is the decision to toss a tub once it has already started to fruit.

The question this brings up for me is: can mold contamination make fruits dangerous to dry and ultimately consume? I was more under the impression that early contamination on agar, in grain jars, or on your sub might render a grow unsuccessful, but I'm having trouble understanding which contaminants might make a grow poisonous or dangerous to consume. Does such a thing happen?

EDIT: (I understand that there are some mushrooms species that will contaminate substrate and may produce fruiting bodies that are poisonous, I'm more curious about mold, slime molds, etc and what their ultimate effect on the fruit I'm cultivating might be. )

Edited by Nokumana (12/22/25 08:01 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Lithop] * 2
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Lithop said:
when one hears the CAKE adding coffee on a PF TEK one can't help but WONDER...
:utterconfusion:
:priceclap:


Damn straight.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Ferryman] * 6
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The Ferryman said:
the_chosen_one said:
Better being a relative term. Some of the tweeks have lead to potential inconsistencies IMO.

#maskingtape :rockon:


No tape! The future is now old man.


I'd be interested to hear your stance on other common tweaks though. The modified 2:1:1 BRF ratios, dunk and roll, water tub vs aquarium with spray shield, regularly fanning and misting,  siphoning off excess water etc. There's lots of stuff in there that goes against more modern conventions.


:lol::oldman:

I'm feeling guilty for derailing Nich's thread. It's quick question and answer not slow old guy likes to bitch about stuff lol. Plus I'm not trying to bring down the status quo. There's more than one way to do this stuff and I even argued with Billy on some topics. Like drip shields. :lol:
So I started a Journal where I can release my angst and feed my ego in an effort to create a unique perspective. :rofl:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: the_chosen_one]
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Quick question in grain jars does the mycelium on the bottom of jar not get air? I got some jars that the top is so colinzed it looks air tight and the mycelium seems to constrict the grain together. There still is a bit left its growing but should I be worried about how it has no air down there? Or does it not need it since the top has air?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 1
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Pictures help. It should colonize completely, it's not about air. If it's wet and not colonized at the bottom might be bacterial imho


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload]
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Hi all - thank you for all the help so far, and thanks Churpee for answering my last question. Hopefully this is the last time I need to consult this thread for this grow.

I'm having trouble with moist cakes. What the hell is a 'glistening cake'? My cakes look exactly the same before and after several direct pumps of mist. These pictures are of after.


I even took a handful of the verm I'm using and ran it under the sink - it may have looked slightly darker after being completely soaked, but it's not anything I would notice after a few pumps from a spray bottle. The only "glistening" I can see is from whatever minerals that shine regardless of how wet they are.

And not sure if this is anything of note, but I sprayed last night, and by the time I woke up (~10 hours later) there was no condensation on the walls of my Mateja's water tub. Lid is slightly cracked as directed, but I have a few 1/4" holes in the bottom where I've attached chicken wire to hold my cakes. The cakes themselves were fairly dry to the touch, and there was a noticeable difference after I misted them.

So, is the only way I'm going to be able to tell if my cake is moist is by touching it? Should they be wet to the touch?
Any help would be appreciated.

Edited by UrbanLibCockroach (12/22/25 10:13 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: UrbanLibCockroach]
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Once the mycelium fluffs up through the verm, you will see tiny beads / droplets. On the myc itself. That's what's meant by 'glistening'.

I could be mistaken, but it seems you have some uncolonized material there. Top of the cake in first pic.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 2
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CaptainTrips420 said:
I was just thinking about doing grain bags in a SAB I can't afford HEPA filter in a flow hood. I saw a video and they cover the filter by folding the bag but dont seal bag. I thought I would just drop some agar or grain to grain in the bag then seal with a clip.

If the bags break easily I think I will stick to jars. I been having this idea about trying to get 20lb of spawn bags then burry them outside in coir to build a outdoor mushroom garden.


Bags are more trouble than they are worth in a sab. I only felt confident with them after getting a ffu.

Theres no reason you cant follow that plan with jars.

The pc should seal bags before inoculation

Nokumana said:
TLDR: do certain contaminants render fruiting bodies unsafe to consume?

Noob question for this Monday morning....

I've been reading a lot about contamination, and one thing that keeps coming up is the decision to toss a tub once it has already started to fruit.

The question this brings up for me is: can mold contamination make fruits dangerous to dry and ultimately consume? I was more under the impression that early contamination on agar, in grain jars, or on your sub might render a grow unsuccessful, but I'm having trouble understanding which contaminants might make a grow poisonous or dangerous to consume. Does such a thing happen?

EDIT: (I understand that there are some mushrooms species that will contaminate substrate and may produce fruiting bodies that are poisonous, I'm more curious about mold, slime molds, etc and what their ultimate effect on the fruit I'm cultivating might be. )


Only contam I know of that will destroy your fruits is pseudomonas bacteria.

It grows in the fruits themselves and will likely only cause stomach upset.

Mushrooms are food. If they are decomposing, dont eat them. Use your senses. Do they smell bad, are they slimy? Do they look or feel extra soft?

Would you eat them if you saw them on a store shelf?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Churpee Choozle said:
Once the mycelium fluffs up through the verm, you will see tiny beads / droplets. On the myc itself. That's what's meant by 'glistening'.

I could be mistaken, but it seems you have some uncolonized material there. Top of the cake in first pic.


Second pic has pins. Maintain conditions and watch


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Yeah that's not the one that worries me, but the first pic seems to show some uncolonized brf. Maybe it's just my fucky eyes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Yea I saw that too. Might be sand too


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Thanks for the help :smile:

When I birthed both those cakes, they had that layer of verm (maybe BRF?) on top that I couldn't rinse out, so I just left it there. Hopefully it's not a problem

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: UrbanLibCockroach]
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its common for the mycelium to eat the dry verm barrier. Its no prob.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: UrbanLibCockroach] * 1
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UrbanLibCockroach said:
Thanks for the help :smile:

When I birthed both those cakes, they had that layer of verm (maybe BRF?) on top that I couldn't rinse out, so I just left it there. Hopefully it's not a problem


The dry verm layer on top shouldn't have any brf on it.

Uncolonized grain is usually a doorway for mold


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 3
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Nothing major to report in terms of cult.

Finally took the plunge on a pressure cooker, been using an instapot for the past year.

Had a few consistent bad runs and just know it's my grain prep.

( Been using popcorn with mild success)

New year / new projects so mixing things up with some WBS :sun:


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