Centerfinger said:

Wow, amazing. Is that a clone or ms?

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Tweeq said:

Centerfinger said:

Wow, amazing. Is that a clone or ms?

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Iirc this is a clone. I got sent some dried grains by another member here.

It must be now that I think about it. It's why I chose this culture for my trials with Pans, so as to rule out genetic differences in case of varying results.

And the results vary a lot 😀

I'm still working on some sort of optimal starting point in terms of substrate moisture content, spawn ratio, when to case,  when to add more moisture after colonization, etc.

My base substrate is hpoo pellets / chopped straw 55% / 45%

All these variables may still change. At least I'm keeping track of what I'm doing now 😀

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tree frog said:

I'll introduce evaporation once I see pins.

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Maormuisir said:

You can ferment alfalfa for a few days to obtain a beneficial microbial profile. Additionally, miscanthus is an excellent substitute for straw, benefiting nature, ecology, etc.

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Pansun said:

tree frog said:

I'll introduce evaporation once I see pins.

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So you don't give them fae until you see pins? I thought it's best to introduce fae right after casing and that will trigger pinning process

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philmyco said:

What is the minimum temp for pan agar work and fruiting? I’ve heard everything from 68 to much warmer like 75.

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Pans are a whole genus of mushrooms.  In this thread, we mostly grow things in a single section; copelandia/cyanescens.  Which includes many different species such as axfordii (temperate but no one is cultivating it really), bisporus (subtropical), and cyanescens (the type species for the section, which is primarily tropical though some specimens have been found out of season or in subtropical zones).

Anyway, it depends.  Though agar and colonization work is good in the low 70s for most species, I have tropical plates in a mini-fridge set to 50 that still colonize.  For fruiting, I have strains identified as cyans that prefer low 70s, and other strains that prefer it closer to 80f.

Though everything I work with does fruit fine in the mid 70s.  Some do better at slightly higher or lower temps.  And I suspect if we ever start working with axfordii, that we'll find it fruits better in the mid 60s.

Anyway, tldr.  You can get away with running everything in the low 70s.  But you'll get much better cap formation by finding the preferred temperature range for whatever you're growing.

80f


Mid 70s.


Same strain.  Pan Oregon.

High 80s during a heat wave.



Low 70s.

Centerfinger said:

Tree frog, are you using grains to sub or are you doing something else? I presume you apply your casing layer at the same time as you mix spawn and bulk since you're waiting for pins to form before putting them in a dreamer.

Are you still working on a revised tek?

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I do grains to sub, apply a thin top layer.  Once it's mostly colonized, I apply a thin casing layer.  You can do both at once though, I just like to let the top colonize a bit first so that the casing colonizes more evenly.

And, I put them in a dreamer before pins form.  Mostly for the heat.  But also for some extra GE without worrying about dry spots.  I just flip the lid until I see knots and pins.  Also, ignore the misting at casing application.  The cyans didn't like it and colonized the casing slowly.  So, unless my casing is dry for some reason.  I won't do it again.

Not a tek, just a log that will be cobbled into one.  So, be aware that it's experimental and a WIP.  Also, take what you like.  The bottom watering thing is extra finicky and the reason I also use a bottom layer.  I'm just a finicky and curious person, that likes to give herself extra work

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tree frog said:I'm just a finicky and curious person, that likes to give herself extra work

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