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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
Looks like plins  or blobs to me. :shrug:


Just curious what variety is it. How long ago did you make these transfers?

I ask because plins usually take a while but I guess it's not unheard of to have some popping up pretty quickly.


Any other opinions?



it's squat melmac.  I didn't keep any records but they were made within the last 2 weeks I think.  recently enough that they havent hit the edge of the plate.

I thought perhaps it was hyphae/primordia, but why would that express on the bottom side of the plate?  then again I dont know why contam would work like that either.

another question I forgot to ask is whether anyone things anything special about that spike of mycelium growing further/faster from plate 2?  could just be a consequence of the transfer inoculant being inverted, but what do I know.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs]
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Oh damn.  My bad. I misunderstood. I didn't realize those were actually on the bottom of the plate. I don't know either man.

I would say that they are the beggining of plins( so ya primordia) if on the surface.  but I don't know about being on the bottom that's kind of weird. Definitely wait for somebody else to chime in.

Melmac is a pe variety so blobs arnt outta the question either.  Ive had them along plins.  But on the surface.



To me The long Spike just looks like myc that that happened to grow that way. Nothing to worry about in regards to that. Imo.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112]
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AZ Starman2112 said:
swankyorclord said:
tree frog said:
swankyorclord said:

Guys, how do you even harvest this Flying Spaghetti Monster??:mushroom2::rasta: These ochras just keep growing! Also, should I wait another day or two before picking these guys?


They have a ways to go.  Ochra veils break very early compared to cubes.  I harvest when spores start dropping or when the stipes start bruising (auto digestion) if it's a low spore strain.

The trouble with orientation and the cap color suggests to me they are low spore btw.

I can't put a time frame on it, pans are fast and everything else is slow in comparison.  Two or three days maybe :shrug:


Thank you so much tree frog!! So cool you can identify what kind of variety these Ochras are from the pics—I’m definitely going to keep my peepers peeled for some bruising. Never heard of auto digestion before!


Exactly as Tree Frog says! She knows her shit and got me through my first grow of Ochras. My last batch last week looked exactly as she just described and it was a PITA to harvest. Use a pair of aquarium scissors if you have one.  It'll get you through the spagetti and a lot of it will come out in big clusters.  This is what you're looking for you tub to look like...












From the looks of those babies. I take it they are the black cap nats?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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One of my 6qt shoeboxes is covered in pins on all 6 sides. Should I let it go in the tote or should I birth this brick and fruit it like a cake?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 1
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You could.  I've definitely done it a bunch. That's kind of what I was getting at yesterday when we were talking about your shoe box subs  on top of a rack in a water tub.

Anytime I noticed I have way more bottom pins than top I'll pull it out and flip it. In turn everything else gets a chance to grow as well if it wants to.



I actually had a tub growing only on the bottom because the sub shrunk so much the little gap between the sub and the bottom of the tub was perfect conditions compared to the top.

If it weren't for me birthing/flipping  it. I'd have got nothing great  out of it. Instead of got a ok 2nd flush.  I'll see if I can find a pic. I think it's pretty cool.



Edit.

here's a bunch of examples when I've had to do it. I've even balanced Subs on one of their sides and had success. I kind of go with the flow wherever the mushrooms happen to be popping up.

Lots of times this is how my Subs end up after first flushes once I punished it and noticed the other surfaces want to grow more than the original. Or if it's just covered in bottom/side  pins and nothing else.





These two below are the ones that started out on the bottom. you could see they're all flat. and then ended on the top.











Edited by callmehippie (09/11/25 03:51 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Ok cool. If I flip it out onto the lid, I can lower it into a larger tub, using the lid as a watering tray. I have something I can use to suspend it off the bottom. Water tub it. I'm going to give it one more day to allow some other opinions to filter in. Here are some pics of the crazy amount of pins.






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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 1
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Gilmour Hendrix said:
One of my 6qt shoeboxes is covered in pins on all 6 sides. Should I let it go in the tote or should I birth this brick and fruit it like a cake?


Yes.

I either leave my 6-sided pinners in the original vessel and scrape off fruits as best I can, or pop them out and put them in some larger tubs that I have, 2 in each one. For me, it's just a matter of what I have available and what I'm feeling.

I find that just popping the sub out, moving it to a larger vessel, and giving it a little mist is enough. Sometimes, if the sub loses a lot of water weight due to all that fruiting, the bottom fruits will just push the whole thing up anyway, automatically making more space in the smaller tub.

Also, don't forget, there's no law against picking pins. Or just eating them fresh. Ok, well, technically, there's a law against all of it, but I digress.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix]
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Gilmour Hendrix said:
Ok cool. If I flip it out onto the lid, I can lower it into a larger tub, using the lid as a watering tray. I have something I can use to suspend it off the bottom. Water tub it. I'm going to give it one more day to allow some other opinions to filter in. Here are some pics of the crazy amount of pins.







I personally wouldn't do anything with that until there were proper fruits forming. Those are the conditions that produced that glorious 6-surface pinning, no need to fuck with them yet. It also looks like you'll still get a top-flush before you really need to worry about the sides and bottom


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: markh] * 2
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markh said:
Hello friends, I am going to try my luck at Enigma but can't find any teks or grow logs.
Can anyone tell me where to look? I'm kind of an idiot when it comes to using the search engine, can't get it to find what I'm looking for.


Type enigma in the Word box, click trusted cultivator and put 2 in the newer than: box. Press search.
Search Posts works well once you become familiar with it. Mess around with it, you can’t break it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven] * 2
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Thanks, B! That was the source of my hesitation. My instinct is to let the first flush run it's course then reorient/relocate. I was worried that if I acted too quickly, I may ruin the potential of this little tub. Thanks CMH for confirming it's possible. Thanks B for confirming the timing.

By the way, it's becoming apparent to me that there isn't a solid line for practices in this hobby. What I mean is that the guidelines are largely there, however, it is up to the operator to determine in which direction to fly the boat. Noob enlightenment.


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Edited by Gilmour Hendrix (09/11/25 06:05 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix]
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Can you send a plate to grain that is older, has pinned and spored and is still contam free?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 2
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Tubs with higher sub to spawn ratio tend to break easier when trying to flip. Just a FYI.

I definitely would’t try anything before the first flush. Gotta let that myc form a solid cake.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: OLDDAD77] * 1
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I agree with B and old dad. I wouldn't mess with that at the moment. I'm normally don't start pulling subs about until after the first flush and I know it's really colonized and got good structure.

And I've allowed what's there a chance first.  That's a really good point to add

Plus what you got going on there isn't really a ton of side pins. Trust me and those will  still grow out pretty good on their own anyways. for the most part.even on the sides.


Edited by callmehippie (09/11/25 01:21 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 1
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AZ Starman2112 said:
Can you send a plate to grain that is older, has pinned and spored and is still contam free?



Bump

Ooo good ?. Ive got a few plates like this as well and was wondering the same thing.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 3
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Yeah they look like black caps, but that was only one indication I used to determine they're low spore producers.

It's very common in low spore strains to have orientation problems.

I've observed this in oysters, psilocybe, and of course a lot of pans.

But that ochra strain in particular seems confused.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112]
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AZ Starman2112 said:
Can you send a plate to grain that is older, has pinned and spored and is still contam free?


Yes you can.

As long as the goal is not to replicate the specific clone (as you now also have spores).

Maybe you have to do apply some revival strategy, but probably not.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: newgrowth3]
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bump

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: newgrowth3]
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newgrowth3 said:
bump


newgrowth3 said:
bump


Keep misting


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: newgrowth3]
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newgrowth3 said:
bump


Are there gaps between the tub and your cake? Im on my cell phone so I can't see the edges verry well. If there is i would add a little water down the sides because if the tub is responding to misting and you have gaps then its definitely needing more water. Those temps should be good in the closet.  How much air exchange do you have in the closet? Do you keep the door closed or open?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
From the looks of those babies. I take it they are the black cap nats?


Straight up Ochras as far as I know.

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