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Re: God is good... [Re: saintdextro]
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saintdextro said:
With Jesus, God became man so man can become God.


This is not true.

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Re: God is good... [Re: blessed]
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blessed said:
Buster_Brown, You have intentionally or unintentionally misquoted the Bible.  Making your point, .....less.


Is that a faculty decision?

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Re: God is good... [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Yes it isn't.

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Re: God is good... [Re: Buster_Brown]
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The parable encourages cultivation of that which is given; also interestingly gives a reflection - Jesus, on the way to show the temple has become a 'den of thieves', is an enemy of said fate, to be slaughtered. So we cultivate and kill in one way or another.

I see it useful as thought, cultivating useful thought which naturally fades the unuseful as light to darkness.

Whose interpretation would you value? If the parable is interpreted as implied, as instruction to kill people, then it is right to reject it lest you give yourself to be slaughtered by the ignorant. Rather, let yourself be slaughtered by the wise. It's not about bodies. Or, if ideas are bodies then it is about bodies, slaying that which does not serve. What is the body but what you wear as an idea?

Yesterday I was doing an exercise - with each thought, asking your teacher if it is of God's creation, or imo however you like, of the Bodhisattva, the Tao, the Silence, practically effortless and fruitful, giving and therefore participating in higher law.

And which thoughts were let go? Pretty much all but the quiet. Loving is good, metta, still pointing beyond the thought tending to confuse form for content.

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Re: God is good... [Re: syncro]
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Meta notions of confidence.

A game is always being played with cunning and confusing ideas.

Enter the Dragon.


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Re: God is good... [Re: BrendanFlock]
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You live within the place that has the most grounding.


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Re: God is good... [Re: blessed]
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blessed said:
saintdextro said:
With Jesus, God became man so man can become God.


This is not true.


Take it up with the church father's, I was quoting them.


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"He who finds peace and joy
And radiance within himself
That man becomes one with God
And vanishes into God's bliss."

-Bhagavad Gita, 5.24
One 21 - Building Better Bombs
One 21 - Pacified
One 21 - Two Sides Is Fine
"Respectability is a cloak for the hypocrite" - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: God is good... [Re: saintdextro]
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Apologetics attempts to fill the gap.

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Re: God is good... [Re: saintdextro]
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saintdextro said:
Take it up with the church father's, I was quoting them.


By Father's, are you referring to The Catholic Church type of father's?

or someone / something else?

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Re: God is good... [Re: blessed]
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Looks like Orthodox. Does Catholicism have deification?

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Re: God is good... [Re: syncro] * 1
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They were all originally catholic with a small 'c', it was till the split a thousand or so years after Christ was here that they call themselves Catholic with a capital 'C', and it was with a small 'c' that I quoted.


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"He who finds peace and joy
And radiance within himself
That man becomes one with God
And vanishes into God's bliss."

-Bhagavad Gita, 5.24
One 21 - Building Better Bombs
One 21 - Pacified
One 21 - Two Sides Is Fine
"Respectability is a cloak for the hypocrite" - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: God is good... [Re: syncro]
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syncro said:
Looks like Orthodox. Does Catholicism have deification?

I believe they are recently opening the doors to that these days, maybe not dogma yet though.


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"He who finds peace and joy
And radiance within himself
That man becomes one with God
And vanishes into God's bliss."

-Bhagavad Gita, 5.24
One 21 - Building Better Bombs
One 21 - Pacified
One 21 - Two Sides Is Fine
"Respectability is a cloak for the hypocrite" - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: God is good... [Re: saintdextro]
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Do a Google search btw, I look into Meister Eckhart (it wasn't him that said it so you know) and other Christian mystics if you wanna know more of about Christian mystics, in fact, use YouTube, they got great videos.


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"He who finds peace and joy
And radiance within himself
That man becomes one with God
And vanishes into God's bliss."

-Bhagavad Gita, 5.24
One 21 - Building Better Bombs
One 21 - Pacified
One 21 - Two Sides Is Fine
"Respectability is a cloak for the hypocrite" - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: God is good... [Re: saintdextro]
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I enjoyed the thread here a while back on Meister Eckhart. Earlier today I searched "With Jesus, God became man so man can become God." and found Orthodox and a particular father referenced.

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Re: God is good... [Re: syncro]
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Maybe I was mistaken, I thought it was early, like origen or Augustine, I myself am a hypocrite to a degree because I didn't even go back to make %100 sure. Lol :rolleyes:

Anyways, Eckhart Tolle said once "if you wanna understand Buddhism, research 'Meister Eckhart'." (Paraphrased)

Here's a good video:
https://youtu.be/joBd5eg7rRA?si=bICfB6JWK_5ZbkVC


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"He who finds peace and joy
And radiance within himself
That man becomes one with God
And vanishes into God's bliss."

-Bhagavad Gita, 5.24
One 21 - Building Better Bombs
One 21 - Pacified
One 21 - Two Sides Is Fine
"Respectability is a cloak for the hypocrite" - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: God is good... [Re: saintdextro]
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Looking again it was Eqyptian Orthodox, Athanasius, theosis.

Btw I was reminded of a yogi's quote: "I make stones into men, and men into gods."

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Re: God is good... [Re: syncro]
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It is given to us to do that because of their teachings, not that I have grown beyond glimpses here, but it is seen approaching the potential when among hearts pouring grief, for example, around the passing of beings they were attached to in the physical, where in the light of dharma it is a time of great joy and glorification.

The intensity of grief contributed similarly to the call of the glory. Oddly both sides consume loosh, for dharma transmuted.

The loosh lore perhaps an inversion within us, the mockery because if one is possible, the other is not.

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Re: God is good... [Re: syncro]
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A fulcrum, whether something is seen as possible. There can be practice with some inspiration or need and still with doubt. When it is accepted as possible, it is given. If you see what is wanted is possible, your approach is true and immediate.

Whether the approach in the moment is with doubt or not, your dharma is your vehicle with an eager driver, door open.

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Re: God is good... [Re: saintdextro]
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saintdextro said:
They were all originally catholic with a small 'c', it was till the split a thousand or so years after Christ was here that they call themselves Catholic with a capital 'C', and it was with a small 'c' that I quoted.


Thank you for clarifying.

As to the catholic's that you were referring to, I can't say anything because I don't know anything about them and what they believed.

The point I wanted to make is that nowhere in the Bible does it teach that "With Jesus, God became man so man can become God.".  Now this could understandably be someones conclusion based on what they've read in the Bible as a summary of who and what Jesus is, the problem is it's a viewpoint that's not found in the Bible.

The Bible does talk about how Jesus entered creation as a man (but still God) and that the purpose of his coming was to set men free from sin and death by his death on the cross.  As far as what happens to any person that becomes a christian (that is believes, repents, gets baptized (not christened), and obeys the will of God), the Bible teaches that they will one day receive a new glorified body and that they will enter the Kingdom of God.  Now this does not mean or imply that we become God or God like.

The saved will be with God, but not God themselves.

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Re: God is good... [Re: syncro]
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syncro said:
Looks like Orthodox. Does Catholicism have deification?


I don't know sorry.

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