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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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tryptkaloids said:
LotKid said:
catnip40 said:
Ur not supposed to talk about the top secret gerbil tek, it's origin, or implications. . .





Keep it up and you might single handedly destroy ai's source material!




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid] * 1
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid] * 1
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LotKid said:
tryptkaloids said:
LotKid said:
catnip40 said:
Ur not supposed to talk about the top secret gerbil tek, it's origin, or implications. . .





Keep it up and you might single handedly destroy ai's source material!





Please do more


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Help.

I want to do no prep with hulled barley, in 1 liter jars.

Can anyone tell me or point me to info about how much water to add to the hulled barley?

Currently I find info stated in cups and milliliters, but I want/need it in grams of barley vs grams of water.

Update: the AI gives me back to use 1:0.4 ratio. So 1 gram of water v.s. 0.4 grams of water. So, 40%. Does that make sense?

Edited by cybork (08/31/25 02:31 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork]
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cybork said:
Help.

I want to do no prep with hulled barley, in 1 liter jars.

Can anyone tell me or point me to info about how much water to add to the hulled barley?

Currently I find info stated in cups and milliliters, but I want/need it in grams of barley vs grams of water.

Update: the AI gives me back to use 1:0.4 ratio. So 1 gram of water v.s. 0.4 grams of water. So, 40%. Does that make sense?


What tek are you using? Maybe we can help math this out if we can see the exact formula.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix]
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Gilmour Hendrix said:
cybork said:
Help.

I want to do no prep with hulled barley, in 1 liter jars.

Can anyone tell me or point me to info about how much water to add to the hulled barley?

Currently I find info stated in cups and milliliters, but I want/need it in grams of barley vs grams of water.

Update: the AI gives me back to use 1:0.4 ratio. So 1 gram of water v.s. 0.4 grams of water. So, 40%. Does that make sense?


What tek are you using? Maybe we can help math this out if we can see the exact formula.



I want to sterilize jars, and after the sterilisation, inoculate with LC. With PE Uncut and B+ actually.

I want to skip soap and boiling of the (hulled) barley; instead fill the jars with the barley, add water, put the jars in the Presto, and start the PC process.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork]
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cybork said:
Help.

I want to do no prep with hulled barley, in 1 liter jars.

Can anyone tell me or point me to info about how much water to add to the hulled barley?

Currently I find info stated in cups and milliliters, but I want/need it in grams of barley vs grams of water.

Update: the AI gives me back to use 1:0.4 ratio. So 1 gram of water v.s. 0.4 grams of water. So, 40%. Does that make sense?


Looks like this might help ya

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28052502#28052502


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dynasty]
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Dynasty said:
cybork said:
Help.

I want to do no prep with hulled barley, in 1 liter jars.

Can anyone tell me or point me to info about how much water to add to the hulled barley?

Currently I find info stated in cups and milliliters, but I want/need it in grams of barley vs grams of water.

Update: the AI gives me back to use 1:0.4 ratio. So 1 gram of water v.s. 0.4 grams of water. So, 40%. Does that make sense?


Looks like this might help ya

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28052502#28052502


Neh, that one has measurements in cups. And not really mentions hulled barley, though actually, maybe in the complete thread it has. TLTR... The thread was very leading back then when I started with no prep btw.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork]
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I'm very new to this hobby but my job irl is to improvise and solve problems with things that I don't fully understand. It's much less glamorous than it sounds. Anyway, the standard PC time for grain appears to be 90 minutes. I would go for 115 mins if I were unsure of the grain I'm working with. As for water, I would take the required amount for pearled barley and add 25%. Again, this is if I was unable to find a direct answer.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix]
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Cybork, I did some web digging. The difference I see in pearled vs hulled barley dry weight is so close I would use the pearled barley recipe. Hulled barley is denser so maybe add 10% water instead of 25% as I said before. I'm just spitballin' here. I'd be confident enough with this to give it a go. However, I'm a foolish man in a strange land.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix]
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why hulled barley? no prep teks can be a little less forgiving on the structure of the grain as it is. sounds like a mushy mess. u have access to millet? fairs decently well with no prep and even better with a 24 hour soak and simple strain. jus my two cents

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sloug]
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...on a side note

anyone ever freeze dry fresh mushies?? always been curious how thatd turn out

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sloug]
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Hi everyone,

Can someone tell me if my substrate is ruined? I had absorption problems, the water never soaked in even after poking holes with a fork. The kit is one week old now

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sloug] * 1
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sloug said:
...on a side note

anyone ever freeze dry fresh mushies?? always been curious how thatd turn out


Lots of people have and apparently it holds a higher potency on average but I’ve heard they also crumble easily, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing sometimes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sloug] * 1
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sloug said:
...on a side note

anyone ever freeze dry fresh mushies?? always been curious how thatd turn out


Yes, if you dig around a bit you should be able to find at least one thread on it. I' pretty sure I've seen several.

The tl;dr, from what I recall, is that it’s crazy expensive for a very small usable drying volume, and that there's ultimately a sense of "works great, but why bother". Or maybe that was just MY sense of it


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sloug]
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sloug said:
why hulled barley? no prep teks can be a little less forgiving on the structure of the grain as it is. sounds like a mushy mess. u have access to millet? fairs decently well with no prep and even better with a 24 hour soak and simple strain. jus my two cents


It appears I meant unhulled barley, so WITH the stuff around them still. I made, once again, a translation error.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 3.A.M]
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Hey, I have leftover hydrated coir in a 5 gal bucket with the lid latched. I should be good to store it this way for awhile yeah?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork] * 1
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cybork said:
Help.

I want to do no prep with hulled barley, in 1 liter jars.

Can anyone tell me or point me to info about how much water to add to the hulled barley?

Currently I find info stated in cups and milliliters, but I want/need it in grams of barley vs grams of water.

Update: the AI gives me back to use 1:0.4 ratio. So 1 gram of water v.s. 0.4 grams of water. So, 40%. Does that make sense?


Yeah, it's AI, so it's obviously infallible.

People can't give you weights if they're not taking them.

However, one ml of water weighs exactly 1 gram, so at least you got that going for you.


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Edited by B Traven (08/31/25 08:51 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix]
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Gilmour Hendrix said:
Cybork, I did some web digging. The difference I see in pearled vs hulled barley dry weight is so close I would use the pearled barley recipe. Hulled barley is denser so maybe add 10% water instead of 25% as I said before. I'm just spitballin' here. I'd be confident enough with this to give it a go. However, I'm a foolish man in a strange land.


I appreciate the effort.

I just did some testing, and weighted 1 tbsp of my UNhulled barley. Seems to weigh 10-12 gr.

Looking at Joshitrainer's Guide (https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28052502#28052502), a 1:1 seems to be propagated, if I take Rye and Wheat as comparison.

This is what's written there:
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Rye            2Tbsp:22ml      1 1/3C:230ml
(...)
Wheat          2Tbsp:22ml      1 1/3C:240ml
"

My 1 TBSP averages to 11, so 2x11 = unhulled barley à 22gr:22ml(=22gr).

Anyway, thanks!

Please let me know if my math make sense. Starting with the recipe in 10 minutes :smile:

And now thinking of doing all 1:0.5, 1:0.75 and 1:1 with this barley, and see what's happening.

Edited by cybork (08/31/25 08:59 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SpaceDawg] * 1
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SpaceDawg said:
Hey, I have leftover hydrated coir in a 5 gal bucket with the lid latched. I should be good to store it this way for awhile yeah?


Yep


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