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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 10
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Oregon Pan Cyan chugging along on grain.

Can't believe it took me this long to dive into pans.  Going to be real interesting trying to fruit them with just monos and a fine mist sprayer.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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I do think that would be a good strain for tub domestication.  Since it pins well in the low to mid '70s.  Plus, your's is an f2, so it still has a lot of genetic diversity.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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We will certainly find out :lol:


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Smellyhobbit said:
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 4
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Mr Piggy said:


Oregon Pan Cyan chugging along on grain.

Can't believe it took me this long to dive into pans.  Going to be real interesting trying to fruit them with just monos and a fine mist sprayer.


You’ll have a jcm chamber before you know it

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 3
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Don’t listen to him pig!

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster]
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Im thinking so too.  Just dug an air pump out of my packed away hydro gear... I won’t be the only one.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nocap] * 1
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kirkeng said:
Don’t listen to him pig!


There's a lot of great tote grows here.  And I cribed a lot from the OP, it has some of the best advice on plates and grain and everything else.  Even if you are not growing in a tote.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27637997/vc/1/nt/95

Kirkeng's put up some bisporus canopies I'm envious of tbh


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster]
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fahtster said:
Mr Piggy said:


Oregon Pan Cyan chugging along on grain.

Can't believe it took me this long to dive into pans.  Going to be real interesting trying to fruit them with just monos and a fine mist sprayer.


You’ll have a jcm chamber before you know it


If I’m going that far, I’m making dreamer tubs :lol:

I honestly can’t make new equipment, I’m sizing down due to life changes and am going to put actives on hold after I’m done with what I have on grain and plates.

That said, I do have an air pump and tubs sitting around…


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
kirkeng said:
Don’t listen to him pig!


There's a lot of great tote grows here.  And I cribed a lot from the OP, it has some of the best advice on plates and grain and everything else.  Even if you are not growing in a tote.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27637997/vc/1/nt/95

Kirkeng's put up some bisporus canopies I'm envious of tbh


:heart: Baba.  Too bad the distilling forums stole him from us :mad2:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Asura said:
1g of CaCO3? Jesus man. I do like 10g/L with 0.5g calcium hydroxide.
I might be overcooking lol. I think I got trich one too many times
in my casing and just said "fuck this" one day.


:rofl: Well if it works it works right. Thanks for sharing what you use, then I have something to go by.

And no man, I use 1g calsium hydroxide for every liter of casing. Haven't used CaCO3 yet, but just read what Tree is doing, so I was asking Tree how much CaCO3 I would need to compensate for 0,5g of calsium hydroxide, but below I see Tree suggest just using my regular amount of calsium hydroxide and just add CaCO3 on top of that.

So then I guess there is only one thing to do, try both methods and see where it takes me :hatsoff:

tree frog said:
He's not using peat.

@kloakk I have no idea.  I've never weighed peat to reverse the weights back.

My suggestion would be to leave the calcium hydroxide alone for pH adjustment.  And then add as much CaCO3 as you want.

tree frog said:
Half a bucket of sifted peat (largest mesh)
1/2 cup calcium hydroxide
1/4 cup powdered gypsum
1/4 cup powdered calcium carbonate
1 cup azomite

Add RO water until the mix is saturated, stirring to ensure no dry spots

Mix in
1 qt gypsum pellets
1 qt vermiculite
2 cups fine sand

Pasteurize at 140f for 60 minutes


This was my 7.5ish mix.  I added a quarter cup of CaCO3 on top of this, to probably a quart or so of the prepped casing.

Hard to go over board with it tbh :shrug:


Sweet, well as I said to Asura I'll try both methods, but glad to hear it's hard to over do it with CaCO3. With homebrewing it's easy to fuck up if it's too much :uhoh:

So 1/4 cup should be about 60ml then, thanks again.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
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tree frog said:
Bra said:
Panaeolus Bisporus popped up.



What did you case this with bra?  Because those pins look very happy.


The casing layer was made of a flower substrate (soil from the garden store) and vermiculite, in a ratio of about 50/50.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bra]
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It's been a minute since I've been around. Before it was all poo, now I see coir+ and soil and compost. What's everyone's preferred substrate and at what ratios?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Floret] * 5
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Mr Piggy said:


Oregon Pan Cyan chugging along on grain.

Can't believe it took me this long to dive into pans.  Going to be real interesting trying to fruit them with just monos and a fine mist sprayer.


:leocheers:
I too am gonna try to run them in (little) tubs, I will also need to pick up a fine mist/ flairosol bottle.
Not pictured, is another 4 or 5 grain jars that size and another sterilized jar of coir n nute.
Today it's time to pasteurise the straw and build em up! I'm wondering, whether to mod the little boxes ala EZ dial.
I mod my shoeboxes like that and they like it enough, I'm planning 3 of those 1.6qt boxes put inside a 16qt shoebox (already modded w/ holes)
:philososloth:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Lithop] * 11
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Nothin’ crazy but happy to see mystery SA start cooperating in tubs more reliably. 3rd generation from initial print now and we’re not having to wade through countless selections to get one that fruits decently, so far 4/4 selections from this generation has produced decently well, only one pictured, though the others are comparable, timing is key I guess. I guess now I can reliably start honing things in.



Thank god to cause I love these guys.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng] * 6
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Feel like I'm starting to figure them out too.

I'll post some myc selection photos once I have a better idea.

But the funky looking stuff I kept running across on plates I'm running now for the second time.  I was avoiding it, but the wispy stuff overlaid.  And the funky stuff fruited well the first time.

We're back in fruiting now! I think the funk is knots and cords.

I lied, here's a photo.  But I'll write something better somewhere if it fruits well again.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 2
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Hmm, is your whisky not turning funky over time? I select whispy but it will turn funky over time every time. For me overlay has improved significantly though I would always take my prints from fruits emerging from non overlayed areas. I’ll pay closer attention to myc, though my assessment of them is selecting for whispy organized like I would for bispo, though they turn funky after plate is filled, similar to cambos or cyans as they age on plates.

Overlay started disappearing in previous gen for me also coinciding with switch to cactus soil casing, not full but half and half cactus and reg peat casing so still peat heavy but with the perlite, sand, rocks n twigs n shit diluted within. Probably I should go back to original print with said casing to see if that had any effect though probably I won’t until I remember to do it three years from now :lol:

Now that I think on it overlay recession also coincided somewhat with a environmental change, moving my grows to the basement where rh is 50-60 constantly compared to the usual 20 upstairs, perhaps the lower rh curves they experienced aided some as well. Eh too many variables to consider and not enough time to test em, I’ll leave that to the smarter folk, this monkey brain can only handle so much yknow…

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng] * 2
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Well, what I was doing was I was germinating on brf. And then cabins sequestering after that, and then on the transfer to a full plate I was trying to get organized growth for long-term storage.

And what I imagine happened at that point, was that they were sectoring into vegetative and non-vegetative growth.

So at that point, the sector was I think basically down to two strains.  The vegetative one, that was just going to stay wispy because it's not two mated nuclei.  And one that would start to go right into trying to fruit (knots and cords) before the plate ever colonized.

Prior to this, I was just working out of little 4 oz cups. And wasn't being nearly as meticulous with getting clean growth.  So I think I was selecting less isolated cultures. Stuff that was a combination of vegetative and mated mycelium.

You can see on that plate that I posted, there still is what looks like more wispy growth towards the edges, but when I chased this, eventually it would just make whispy growth and that stuff would overlay.

Long story short, I think that there's two strains on that plate. One is vegetative and one is sexual.

I'm going to take it to low nutrient plates if it fruits again.  See if I can isolate the sexual growth and store it.  I might already have knots forming in my casing.  Less than a week since it was spawned.


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I'd be running up that road
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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I like the idea of adjusting pH with caOH and then just adding CaCO3 for buffering capacity and extra calcium.  Turns out CaCO3 is practically insoluble in water at pH above 7 but more soluble in an acidic environment.  So the CaOH is almost certainly better for adjusting pH.  My last bunch I added WAY more than the recipe called for trying to get my junk pH meter to move...it never did.  Strips showed pH slightly over 9.  My subtrops seem to be doing great with it.  They did not eat the casing at all, but still pinned well.  Hopefully can get some TTBVI in some pasteurized coir/black cow/verm going this weekend and then case with the high pH peat moss/verm after it colonizes. 

Thanks for all the knowledge on here.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Ok I see, yeah I’m not chasing anything usually sending a t1 sometimes germ plate and printing or cloning from there. Maybe a t2 or 3 if I need to cabin them but I try to avoid it if possible, too many times I’ve been burned by a ran out culture.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng] * 6
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Yeah, I just wanted stuff organized for culture storage.  But I took it down far enough it was sectoring and because of the color of the knots etc, assumed it was bacteria.

But, it kept showing up. Multiple different germs.  I was down to my print is hopelessly dirty, and I need to track down a clean one, or fuck it let's see what happens.



Coverage could have been better, but was still dialing in the dreamers.


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