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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nocap]
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nocap said:
Would this be chicken wheat from the feed store?  Because I can definitely get that for cheap.


Yes its just super cheap feed grain , about 15 bucks for a 50 lbs

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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tree frog said:
What spawn ratio 99.99?  1:1 like your tamps?

And yeah, wheat has more nitrogen than most grains.  Popcorn and rice are up there too.


Actually, I probably misspoke when I said it is 50-50
For the tamps it 1 to 3 parts coir and the same for the pans

In fact, the only difference between growing the ATL7 and the pans is literally the aluminum can it grows in because the pans abort when they get drops on the fruit

The runtime for the humidifier does not matter either. I normally set it on a fine mist and just leave it on constantly as the trays cannot get too wet and abort.

Edited by 99.99 (07/11/25 07:04 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 99.99] * 1
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I may have misunderstood too on the tamps.  You know how it is sometimes :bongload:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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tree frog said:
I may have misunderstood too on the tamps.  You know how it is sometimes :bongload:


I think at one time i said 50/50 because its only colonized wheat and coir nothing else…. Sometimes i put a spoon of vermiculite in with the wheat so it’s easier to break up

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 99.99] * 2
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99.99 said:
No you didnt miss anything i only use 100% coir im guessing the wheat adds to it also

IE pans grow best on grasses and coir is as close as i t needs to be

I have tried horse, manure, straw, and everything else and I did not notice a difference


Well shit, that's crazy, I like it :muppet: I have done a couple of Bisporus grows with 100% coir sub, but the wheat spawn(1:4) didn't produce any fruit for me. Popcorn spawn(1:3) did.

All of them in tubs though, so I should probably try it again in a dreamer. Thanks for sharing this, I have been under the impression that pans in 100% coir subs always produce a sparse pinset and small fruits.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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Ohhh snap that's amazing!! I had no idea oh whoa, thanks you guys. 🤩
We were always informed panaeolus absolutely NEEDED manure, I think
a long time ago in a pinch for manure compost I would "cut" it with coir.

Usually the chopped up straw manure clumps I usually would add verm, coir, spent coffee grounds, and a very small amount of worm castings for gardening.
I suppose a personal recipe, not sure how to pasturize it. Now that I think about it, gypsym might be added to it nowadays too for me! 😊

but always nowadays I'm
way paranoid about microbes and stuff, so I would probably try pasturizing then
sterilizing? not sure though. 😎


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Wedgie] * 4
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Wedgie said:
Ohhh snap that's amazing!! I had no idea oh whoa, thanks you guys. 🤩
We were always informed panaeolus absolutely NEEDED manure, I think
a long time ago in a pinch for manure compost I would "cut" it with coir.

Usually the chopped up straw manure clumps I usually would add verm, coir, spent coffee grounds, and a very small amount of worm castings for gardening.
I suppose a personal recipe, not sure how to pasturize it. Now that I think about it, gypsym might be added to it nowadays too for me! 😊

but always nowadays I'm
way paranoid about microbes and stuff, so I would probably try pasturizing then
sterilizing? not sure though. 😎


I always use coir with my pans, but not 100%. For TTBVI my best trays was 70/30 coir/cow manure compost and 100% coir hydrated with plant fertilizer. I've also done other subs, and with added straw and/or rice hulls it colonized faster, but not necessarily pin faster or give the best pinset.

Funny thing though, as long as nothing contaminates the total dry weight when the trays exhausts seems to be pretty close to each other, but it's easier to harvest trays with fewer big fruits and a panopy looks sexy :muppet:

I'll have to do more pans, but it seems like simple subs give the best results with the least amount of work, more complex subs can give different morphology and for some that matters.

This is the 70/30 coir/cow manure compost, it definitely did the thing, but all the caps where pretty flat and not very aesthetic to look at.



Then there is this tray,

30% Coir
30% Cow manure compost
30% Straw
10% Rice hulls



In the end both trays gave about the same dry weight, but this tray gave out more aesthetic looking fruits. 

I slow pasteurize all subs and casings with any kind of nutrient except plant fertilizer as there is no beneficial bacteria in the one I use(synthetic fertilizer). I know there are some who sterilize, but I've had good results with pasteurization, so I'll stick to that for now.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 3
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Is there an easy way to chop up straw?

Would putting it in a grinder and turning it to powder be a bad idea? In this scenario I'd be mixing it with Manure and Coir.

Bonus pics of some babies coming in:




On a side note, my automatic misting system seems to be working. I tweaked it a bit. I'm now spraying every 4 hours for 30 seconds with my exhaust fan on setting 8 for 1 minute every 5. So far, the pins don't seem to be aborting. Some of the ones in the picture were there last night, and even more grew in the last 6 hours.


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Edited by PuffM4gicDr4gon (07/12/25 07:43 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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The rare times I would have it by itself, straw was easily (but tedious)
cut into 1 to 1 1/2 inches with those thick cardboard cutting scissors.
Plus I suppose it depends on what species too like Pleurotus.

But I mean that was just what I would do 😎


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Wedgie]
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Cutting it is such a PITA. Mostly because I was using shitty scissors. If I have to buy some good scissors and do it the hard way, so be it. I was just hoping for a shortcut.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Cutting it is such a PITA. Mostly because I was using shitty scissors. If I have to buy some good scissors and do it the hard way, so be it. I was just hoping for a shortcut.


I guess it depends what you are using it for, the way I see it straw has 2 things going for it, 1 is obviously as a food source, and 2 is structure. If you are using it mainly as a food source, grind away, if you are using it to increase aeration, then I would cut it.

Don't have any tip on doing it more efficiently as I buy my straw pre chopped.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Pastywhyte said:
So the first thing you need to do is prep your straw. I like to just run the lawnmower over it and  then just empty it into bags for use when needed. Weedwhackers work as well as many other things so however you do it just make sure that most of the straw is in around 1" pieces. I then weigh out the straw I need and put it in a bucket. Sometimes I like to chop it up a bit more with some hand shears to get the long pieces down to size.


The lawnmower bit gave me a chuckle.

Weedwhacker tek as I remember it: get a tub, fill with straw, cut hole in lid, insert weedwhacker into hole, whack it


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dala]
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Dala said:
The lawnmower bit gave me a chuckle.

Weedwhacker tek as I remember it: get a tub, fill with straw, cut hole in lid, insert weedwhacker into hole, whack it


The mental images of prepping straw with a lawnmower :rofl:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 5
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I've seen a few ttbvi grows on discord on just coir that used a high spawn ratio that fruited well.  But yeah, pans are a whole genus.  And they have different preferences when it comes to nutrients and environment.

Pan Oregon made a mess last night.  But the fruit morphology is almost as good as outside.  Score another for the Jake and pheno inspired autotubs.




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
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Man, it's crazy how fast TTBVI grows.

This was at 5am:


And this is at 8am:



They look so happy!

Im also starting to see pins on my two larger trays that weren't there in the morning



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Beautiful trays Tree :naughty:

And yeah, I understand that different variety's will have different needs, and I have seen how Bisporus can give a pretty good flush on just coir as long as I use popcorn and a higher ratio, I'm just not sure if it would be worth it, for me, in my situation. I was just a little surprised that the pictures 99.99 posted where coir only, I don't think they are though, but I have no problem believing that 99.99 gets the same results without the steer manure blend from Home Depot :muppet:

It's still amazes me what some people can do around here, even with unconventional methods, so I was asking because I wanted to be sure I read 99.99's post right.

Sidenote: I am getting to Oregon soon, didn't like the T2 plate so went for a T3 and hope that will take all doubt away and feel comfortable sending it to grains.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 5
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Cutting it is such a PITA. Mostly because I was using shitty scissors. If I have to buy some good scissors and do it the hard way, so be it. I was just hoping for a shortcut.


The shortcut is buy chopped straw!



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 2
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RoscoeReturns said:
PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Cutting it is such a PITA. Mostly because I was using shitty scissors. If I have to buy some good scissors and do it the hard way, so be it. I was just hoping for a shortcut.


The shortcut is buy chopped straw!




this has been so convenient for me, I've been enjoying using it.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger] * 2
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Whoaaaa  very nice and such!

Guys I thought Peace River was a complete failure for me,
but these MIB look different, could have been mislabeled or something.
I think it's because these are a bit smaller, well the
fruits are a lot smaller than the times before.

They look more like Peace river or some other variety, not MIB in my opinion
but could be wrong. 😯



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger] * 6
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stagger said:
RoscoeReturns said:
PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Cutting it is such a PITA. Mostly because I was using shitty scissors. If I have to buy some good scissors and do it the hard way, so be it. I was just hoping for a shortcut.


The shortcut is buy chopped straw!




this has been so convenient for me, I've been enjoying using it.


I once bought a 100 liter pressed bale of chopped straw. When you take some out it becomes more. After 3 years it's sort of starting to look like 95 liters :smile:


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