tryptkaloids said:

I use ziplocks for that same reason.

Id try stacking them on the lid and use the jar as the lid if that makes sense.

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Ive dont that as well, some of those jar's petris were also contaminated.


Do you do individual ziplocks for petris or a few in a ziplock?

Re: pics of jars

No not currently, but it was a white mold that started at the top, very similar color to myc, but the disorganized growth of an obvious contam.

I had used a gifted PC before and thought I didn't run the PC cycle long enough, but recently ruled that out with both running my Presto normally and running a set in my IP.

chris77 said:

i have had jars really difficult to shake and break apart. to me this is not a good „indicator“  to judge whether spawn is off or contamed.
relates more to moisture in grain, type of grain and consolidation level imo.

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I think difficult to break and shake and has to be scooped out with something because it's so hard it's like a brick is a little bit different don't you?


This is a subject that's been discussed many times around these parts. In general clean spawn should easily fall out of the jar. Not to say that the actual break and Shake sometimes doesn't need a lot of force but once it has broken apart if your spawn is clean it really should fall out easily.

Now consolidation times may make this not as easy. But that usually is in terms of actually getting it to break apart initially. But in my experience and my experience is only with millet just to put that out there. when you're spawn is making you work to get it out of the jar after break  and shake then  there's something up with it.


But to be clear like you said this doesn't always apply I just think it's kind of a general rule that me and alot of other members around here stand by.

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callmehippie said:

Bigworm said:

I had a jar that I had to smack against my boots before it started to break up. Even then it was difficult to get it out of the jar and I used a flame sterilized knife to cut it up to get it to fall out in chunks. That spawn went 10 months almost 11 months in a shoebox before it contaminated. In my opinion(doesn't mean shit) if it's cubes or pans it would be a bad sign, but semps and stone produces might be an exception.

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I agree. The spawn in reference was cubes. He's talking about chill Billy.



Who knows though. Cuz I had some semps jars that were 7 months old very thick. But after the forcful breaking shake they all  fell outta the jars like you would expect a jar has only been consolidating for a week.

That's why I said it's not always the case. but I would definitely agree with you that if it's a cube I would be worried. And that's what I was referring to for sure. I guess it can be confusing since we're here in the semp thread.


Honestly though all of my experience is in regards to Cubes at this point. I've only successfully grown one tray of semps so I have a lot to learn in those regards.


Whenever I said this conversation has been had quite a few times around here and a lot of members tend to stand by what I said. I also forgot I wasn't in the ask quick questions get quick answers thread. That's the thread i was referencing. for the most part people are usually discussing cubes over there as well.



How's it going over there with you big worm? You got your pins yet? I'm rooting for you. Really interested to see if you do get fruits what they look like compared to mine.

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chris77 said:

what i stated above applies to cubensis aswell IME.
your mileage may vary. rocksolid spawn being unhealthy contamladen could be a myth though.

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chris77 said:

when i use oats they are always very difficult to break up. i use wide mouth jars and i let the whole block come out (with some hard shake) and crumble it afterwards. but man, often really solid!
spawn is still super clean, smells perfect and 0 metabolites.
i havent used millet and i do imagine its less starchy than oats.
but in general  i think its not a good rule is all im saying, i think its even wrong to tell that to newbies

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This is the information I've been spoon fed by many TC's over the past year around here is all I'm saying. So this was the information I was fed as a newbie from a lot of the people you're told to listen to around here. And they still give this information out because there was an argument about it just a month or two ago in quick questions quick answers thread

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My info comes from stipes
Clean spawn checklist for the new grower. + 82

Axman said:

Do you do individual ziplocks for petris or a few in a ziplock?

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callmehippie said:

Hey I'm curious about what everybody thinks of this conversation and the advice I was giving out. And if it's wrong for me to give this advice out to newbies.?

Only asking because if it is bad advice obviously I don't want to keep giving it out.

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Axman said:

Absolutely confused right now, so I leave my pre prepared petris in modified jars so I have them on hand so I can just grab and go for agar work.

My house either has a crazy spore load right now or all of my dumb Amazon special filter stickers are failing me, literally all of my Petris have some level of contamination, many of my jars have been fucked lately too.

I ordered SFDs recently so Im hoping that fixes this issue but damn this is disheartening. Super bummed out.

I've never once had this many fail, let alone fail before inoculation.

What can I do better? I'm about to prep more agar for transfers today.

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Axman said:

LadysKnight said:

Axman said:

Absolutely confused right now, so I leave my pre prepared petris in modified jars so I have them on hand so I can just grab and go for agar work.

My house either has a crazy spore load right now or all of my dumb Amazon special filter stickers are failing me, literally all of my Petris have some level of contamination, many of my jars have been fucked lately too.

I ordered SFDs recently so Im hoping that fixes this issue but damn this is disheartening. Super bummed out.

I've never once had this many fail, let alone fail before inoculation.

What can I do better? I'm about to prep more agar for transfers today.

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While you wait for new filters, I would try wrapping a batch of plates to be sure it's the filters.

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Im about to run a small run today to do that very thing.

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I don't get the paper towels. Flipping them upside down seems maybe not ideal? Seems like a fair bit of just handling stuff. And is that SAB floor the lid of the tub? I was warned against just that as it can flex and move air. I've been doing no wrap plates, moving them into shoeboxes for storage with (almost!) no problems. But minimal handling, held top and bottom and not at the edges where the gap is.

Axman said:

Do you do individual ziplocks for petris or a few in a ziplock?

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Mr Piggy said:

Just tug the peen when they start to get soft.

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That's what she said.

(Help I've been kindnapped by a Reddit mod)

callmehippie said:

I've been wanting to do time lapse videos of my grows. But I don't know how it works. I mean obviously I understand the concept I just mean never done it before or anything like that.

Do they make special cameras to do this? Does anybody out there know of a decent one that's also not super expensive that'll get the job done?

I'm really interested but don't know where to start.

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