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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: EniQma] * 7
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Just cased these. Ttbvi and Bisporus with liquid worm castings added to the cv at spawn



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: EniQma] * 1
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Yeah that's what I was planning on since tree frog wrote that you should shake it after the first signs of recovery and then at 30% but I was reading on here and started getting paranoid by old posts and wanted to make sure it was healthy so I listened to what I read even though I couldn't see a single sign of contamination by then ( at least from what I could tell).

Thanks for the input! The help all of you provide is priceless.:rockon:


I've got another question though. I bought cactus soil today which is peat, sand(?) and lime with a pH of 5.5- 6.5. I think it matches the cactus soil I've seen people use but I just wanna make sure it's the real deal before I throw it on my substrate. Did I get the right kind?

https://weibulls.com/weibulls-sa-och-kaktusjord-8l-krav-2-pack



And last but not least, how do I tell if peat is good to go for this? Because I found a whooping deal where I can get 250-300 litres of peat for just around $15 :eek:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv]
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That cactus soil looks a lot better then what I currently use, I can get the same where I'm at, but I was wondering where you found what's in it? Can't find any information on Clas :muppet:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Oh that's on the back of the sack! Look behind the balls.:trolldance:

Jokes aside it was on the back of it and this is what it says:




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv] * 2
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SkanskKorv said:
Oh that's on the back of the sack! Look behind the balls.:trolldance:

Jokes aside it was on the back of it and this is what it says:





:cujo:

Thanks a lot man, this is great news :rockon:
I can also get peat real cheap, but what the fuck do I do with 200L :crankey:
I have had good results with cactus soil, coir and verm, so I'll be sure to pick up a "sack" cuz I'm nuts.
:vibin:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv] * 5
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I'm setup for Pans for the next year:



I also have some Lime, PH Tester and one of these arriving today to help me set and forget pasteurization:



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
I'm setup for Pans for the next year:



I also have some Lime, PH Tester and one of these arriving today to help me set and forget pasteurization:




:chefskiss:

How much substrate can you do in that thing and how much did it cost? Looks stellar man.

:vibin:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
SkanskKorv said:
Oh that's on the back of the sack! Look behind the balls.:trolldance:

Jokes aside it was on the back of it and this is what it says:





:cujo:

Thanks a lot man, this is great news :rockon:
I can also get peat real cheap, but what the fuck do I do with 200L :crankey:
I have had good results with cactus soil, coir and verm, so I'll be sure to pick up a "sack" cuz I'm nuts.
:vibin:



:uhhwhat:It's simple. buy land - make enough spawn and substrate to match 300 litres of casing - grow mushrooms - hire some poor kids to maintain it to make it less suspicious in case the feds show up -  profit - go to Vegas and gamble - lose - re-peat.


Seriously though I was thinking the same... But man I'd never need to buy peat again so if it's good then why not?

Just take it easy on the sack, it's fragile.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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It holds 6 liquid quarts. Melgo has the same model in his Semp journal. It looks like he does 12 jars at a time with this recipe:

Quote:
100% coir substrate, for 12 jars
450 grams of coir
1,9 liters of water
Mix coir with warm water, put in the slow cooker
Set slow cooker temperature to 64° Celsius (147 °F), so that the max reached/read by the probe will be 73° Celsius (163 °F)


I doubt it's actually 12 whole quarts. It's probably loosely packed or something.

I like the idea of a temperature probe, 24 hour run time, and the ability to set a specific temperature to hold. It was $100 CDN on Amazon. I'm going to use it for Manure/straw subs, and CV mixes for Semps.

When work is busy I'm lucky if I'm home for 1.5 days. I like that I can mix it up the night I get home and just set and forget it overnight. There probably are cheaper ways to pastsurize, but the convenience make it worth it to me

Edit: I just realized mine is a different brand than he has in his journal, but it has the same features.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: EniQma]
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You don't have to stir?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv] * 1
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SkanskKorv said:
:uhhwhat:It's simple. buy land - make enough spawn and substrate to match 300 litres of casing - grow mushrooms - hire some poor kids to maintain it to make it less suspicious in case the feds show up -  profit - go to Vegas and gamble - lose - re-peat.


Seriously though I was thinking the same... But man I'd never need to buy peat again so if it's good then why not?

Just take it easy on the sack, it's fragile.


I already have two poor kids(my own) but they could work right? Or will that increase chances of getting busted?

I agree about never have to buy peat again, but even tho I own a house, I wouldn't know where to store that shit, I already have a lot of stuff for cult, but I also have 2 brew kettles, 15 kegs, 6 fermenters, 4 fridges and about 300kg of malt, so yeah 8 liter of peat based cactus soil sounds real sexy to me man :naughty:

And aren't all sacks fragile? I'll be sure to lift in both ends, thanks for the HEADs up :muppet:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke]
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Dr. Smoke said:
You don't have to stir?


I think this was meant for me? If not, I apologize.

I haven't used it yet, but it seems like Melgo deliberately sets it low enough that it doesn't go above pasteurization temps, but high enough so the lowest is still at 154f which is within pasteurization threshold.

From here:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28106091#28106091

I believe Baba mentions he pasteurizes at 140f in one of his teks. His manure tea tek if I remember correctly.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
SkanskKorv said:
:uhhwhat:It's simple. buy land - make enough spawn and substrate to match 300 litres of casing - grow mushrooms - hire some poor kids to maintain it to make it less suspicious in case the feds show up -  profit - go to Vegas and gamble - lose - re-peat.


Seriously though I was thinking the same... But man I'd never need to buy peat again so if it's good then why not?

Just take it easy on the sack, it's fragile.


I already have two poor kids(my own) but they could work right? Or will that increase chances of getting busted?

I agree about never have to buy peat again, but even tho I own a house, I wouldn't know where to store that shit, I already have a lot of stuff for cult, but I also have 2 brew kettles, 15 kegs, 6 fermenters, 4 fridges and about 300kg of malt, so yeah 8 liter of peat based cactus soil sounds real sexy to me man :naughty:

And aren't all sacks fragile? I'll be sure to lift in both ends, thanks for the HEADs up :muppet:



Well that totally depends on how gangsta you raised them so if they know that snitches get stitches for being bitches you'll be fine but I'm sure you did since this is indeed the Scandinavian way of raising a child.

:whatthefuck:
300 kg of malt?... Sounds like a perfect match for 300 liters of peat :cool:

I don't know man...But I don't recommend balling them around.:raisemyglass:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv] * 9
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bisporus, and chlorocystis really starting to fill the tub out:tongue:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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You don't have to stir?
PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Dr. Smoke said:
You don't have to stir?


I think this was meant for me? If not, I apologize.

I haven't used it yet, but it seems like Melgo deliberately sets it low enough that it doesn't go above pasteurization temps, but high enough so the lowest is still at 154f which is within pasteurization threshold.

From here:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28106091#28106091

I believe Baba mentions he pasteurizes at 140f in one of his teks. His manure tea tek if I remember correctly.


Yes, I pasteurize my composted poo and I have to constantly stir so it doesn't burn.  I would love to not have to do this if possible.

Commercial kettles use a steam jacket -and- a stirer.

Maybe you (or I) could rig up a rotisserie motor and some paddles.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke]
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That's a bit beyond my means at the moment. I'm going to try playing with the slow cooker and see how it goes.

As long as all of it remains above 140f, but below 165f it should be fine. That's a pretty wide range. Slow cookers are thick ceramic and should be able to be heated without flash heating sections, especially if there is another material inside the ceramic dish to soak the heat up.

My main reason I avoid pasteurization is because I don't want to baby something for hours. The time I have to cult is limited, so anything I can set and forget is a blessing.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv]
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SkanskKorv said:
Well that totally depends on how gangsta you raised them so if they know that snitches get stitches for being bitches you'll be fine but I'm sure you did since this is indeed the Scandinavian way of raising a child.

:whatthefuck:
300 kg of malt?... Sounds like a perfect match for 300 liters of peat :cool:

I don't know man...But I don't recommend balling them around.:raisemyglass:


yeah, they pretty gangster, we don't have english as our first language, but they say fuck all the time(4 and 7), but yeah they know what's up. And you are not wrong, 200L of peat would be real tetris porn with the 25kg of straw, but then I have to use 15 minutes to get to the drill and whatnot :crankey:

Got it, won't get to ballsy around the sack of the cactus soil :uhoh:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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I had to go to urgent care the other day while I was pasteurizing substrate in my PC.  Induction burner set to 150f.

When we got home the middle read 140f.

Point being, if we're patient and use temps under 160f, there's no need to stir.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 2
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tree frog said:
I had to go to urgent care the other day while I was pasteurizing substrate in my PC.  Induction burner set to 150f.

When we got home the middle read 140f.

Point being, if we're patient and use temps under 160f, there's no need to stir.


This, but I use a water heater for brewing, I set my temp to 154F and walk away, 14 hours later the core temp has been 140F for 3-5 hours. I do introduce oxygen as soon as it's cooled though.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
tree frog said:
I had to go to urgent care the other day while I was pasteurizing substrate in my PC.  Induction burner set to 150f.

When we got home the middle read 140f.

Point being, if we're patient and use temps under 160f, there's no need to stir.


This, but I use a water heater for brewing, I set my temp to 154F and walk away, 14 hours later the core temp has been 140F for 3-5 hours. I do introduce oxygen as soon as it's cooled though.


The sous vide should essentially function the same, yeah? My plan is to buy one and just use a 5gal bucket or something.


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