Kloakk said:

...did I read some BS?

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Oh, I'm sure I'll get walloped in the future and I'll deserve it

tree frog said:

I think it's likely we're missing something key, raw psilocin/psilocybin numbers don't seem to be telling the whole story

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Kloakk said:

SkanskKorv said:

Alright that's it I need these now.

Is there anything differing bispo from TTBVI when it comes to cultivating them?

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I was thinking about how you described TTBVI today, and I find it puzzling how much you needed to take, how did you end up drying them?

To answer your question, I run my bispo and TTBVI the same, except I mist bispo's even though they are in the dreamer tub, because they love it(thanks for the tip tree frog). A very loose casing seems to be important to. Got this new tray of bispo coming in that was from an AIO, a bag, but when I do AIO going forward I'll do AIO jars(guess who's got a write up on that), the AIO jar rock

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Well these weren't the ones I had issues drying, these were my first tray to finish growing so they're dried with a dehydrator on 45°c for a few hours just 2 min nafter harvesting them (they crumbled as I tried to pick them out of the jar so they were definitely still bone dry). And honestly I didn't experience them as weak at all, perhaps not the most potent TTBVI ever but they had a 4-5x potency compared to GT which is more than enough for me.

My issue is my tolerance. I used to be a hardcore junkie back in the days and that's where my main tolerance just skyrocketed And I went from being overwhelmed by 90mg codeine to doing 160mg oxycodone per dose 3-4x a day whilst mixing it with a shit load of Xanax and central stimulants. I also quit that bad habit and started drinking waaaay too much (1-2 liters of vodka per day) for a year until the alcohol gave me pancreatitis.

I can still jug down 350-500ml of vodka and only feel a mere intoxication from it. I'm definitely effected but drunk? Far from it.

My doses of GT or B+ are usually around 4-8g to start with then I double it about an hour later and I'm far from tripping balls on that even if it gives a very strong effect I'm very aware and always being perfectly clear and social with my girl.


Alright then I'll just do the same as I did but I'll be keeping them a tad more wet. I've seen tree frog's pictures and it looks like she mist them quite heavily so I guess I'll be aiming for that result! I'll be keeping an eye out for that writeup 😁

SkanskKorv said:

Well these weren't the ones I had issues drying, these were my first tray to finish growing so they're dried with a dehydrator on 45°c for a few hours just 2 min nafter harvesting them (they crumbled as I tried to pick them out of the jar so they were definitely still bone dry). And honestly I didn't experience them as weak at all, perhaps not the most potent TTBVI ever but they had a 4-5x potency compared to GT which is more than enough for me.

My issue is my tolerance. I used to be a hardcore junkie back in the days and that's where my main tolerance just skyrocketed And I went from being overwhelmed by 90mg codeine to doing 160mg oxycodone per dose 3-4x a day whilst mixing it with a shit load of Xanax and central stimulants. I also quit that bad habit and started drinking waaaay too much (1-2 liters of vodka per day) for a year until the alcohol gave me pancreatitis.

I can still jug down 350-500ml of vodka and only feel a mere intoxication from it. I'm definitely effected but drunk? Far from it.

My doses of GT or B+ are usually around 4-8g to start with then I double it about an hour later and I'm far from tripping balls on that even if it gives a very strong effect I'm very aware and always being perfectly clear and social with my girl.


Alright then I'll just do the same as I did but I'll be keeping them a tad more wet. I've seen tree frog's pictures and it looks like she mist them quite heavily so I guess I'll be aiming for that result! I'll be keeping an eye out for that writeup 😁

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Aaahh that makes sense, with that tolerance I understand your dose. Thanks for sharing a little something about yourself btw. And the AIO jar writeup is already out

Kloakk said:

Thanks for that, I always appreciate a t-spoon feeding, I'm slow and it helps me not misunderstand

And yeah, I got pretty good results with bisporus when I went, agar->grain->sub->casing too, the picture in my sig. But this two new trays that came from AIO with 33/33/33 coir/cow manure compost/oats and with a real fluffy pH adjusted casing of 50/40/10 coir/cactus soil/vermiculite seems to be doing better.

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Kloakk said:

Looks good from here.

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SkanskKorv said:

Lol t-spoon feeding...


Which cactus soil are you using for this?

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Just whatever I could find at plantasjen. I sift it, mix with field capacity coir and verm, add 1g calcium hydroxide per liter of casing and pasteurize it at 65°C for two hours after reaching core temperature.

SkanskKorv said:

Kloakk said:

Looks good from here.

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SkanskKorv said:

Do you test the ph value or do you throw a hail Mary and just assume it's correctly dosed?

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tree frog said:

Cactus soil is usually pH balanced out of the bag.  Verm is neutral.  Coir runs around 5.5.

But I'm a little curious too, calcium hydroxide or calcium carbonate?

I've looking at cactus soil myself as I think both bispo and mystery sa might appreciate it more than peat.

Found a photo on mushroom observer yesterday of a gorgeous bispo volunteer in someone's succulent pot.

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It's calsium hydroxide[Ca(OH)2] and it was you(tree frog) that said I should try with 1g/L(qt) casing since I had a hard time finding a good pH meter under 300 USD, and so far I've had great results, so I don't think I'll be throwing money on a pH meter just yet

@SkanskKorv, as you can tell from my reply to tree frog I don't use a pH meter, I wouldn't say I just wing it, but maybe I'm

Edit: I don't know if this matters, but in case it does, I want to add that my water has a pH of 7,9.

Dr. Smoke said:

Kloakk said:

Edit: I don't know if this matters, but in case it does, I want to add that my water has a pH of 7,9.

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Does it come from a limestone aquifer?  A well?  I should think you get water from snowmelt, which I can't imagine would have such a base reading.

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My water comes from a +80 meter deep aquifer yes, melting snow, rain and nearby lakes, whatever runs underground I guess I think the high pH in my water mainly comes from the presence of alkaline rocks and minerals.

Dr. Smoke said:

Kloakk said:

My water comes from a +80 meter deep aquifer yes, melting snow, rain and nearby lakes, whatever runs underground I guess I think the high pH in my water mainly comes from the presence of alkaline rocks and minerals.

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Yep, limestone.  Bet it tastes good.  Hope you get your fluoride from somewhere.

This would be good for shrooms, assuming no chlorine or other additives.

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It tastes great, and actually there is enough fluoride in the water that our dentist told us not to supply with anything.

Fluoride (F): 1.84 mg/l