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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: akapulko] * 1
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ttbvi-1 can of 0.5 straw, 1 can of 0.5 hay, 0.25 coconut fiber, 2 cans of 0.5 (1 L) dry horse manure, 1 tablespoon of gypsum, 3 tablespoons of mycelium.

Pan.Cambodginiensis - 3 liters of hay, 1 liter of horse manure, 4 tablespoons of mycelium



That sounds like a lot of manure in the TTBVI substrate but I'm not sure if this is translated correctly.

I would try use between 10% to 25% horse manure, and experiment with coir and straw but I would avoid hay.

You don't need to be complicated with the substrate recipe, some people are successful adding only some plant liquid fertilizer to coir for their Pan cyan substrate.

"3 tablespoons of mycelium" do you mean 3 jars of grain spawn?

I always spawn Pan cyans at 1 part grain spawn to 4 parts substrate but I know others prefer to use higher ratios of grain spawn with great success.

TTBVI sometimes does colonise the casing but usually it is OK and will fruit, you can't do much with this grow except maintain proper condtions and keep waiting for now.

Do you have more spores? Maybe you should try a new culture from spore, avoid fluffy mycelium and select for the fine and whispy mycelium.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv] * 1
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You can, I fruited TTBVI with 100% vermiculite casing in a monotub.

It is common for TTBVI to colonise the casing, at least a little bit but a good environment seems to help and it's not impossible that your culture doesn't colonise casing layers.

Impossible to say at this stage if it's normal or if something is wrong, you can only maintain proper condtions and keep on waiting :smoker:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dkeppel]
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Dkeppel said:
Quote:
ttbvi-1 can of 0.5 straw, 1 can of 0.5 hay, 0.25 coconut fiber, 2 cans of 0.5 (1 L) dry horse manure, 1 tablespoon of gypsum, 3 tablespoons of mycelium.

Pan.Cambodginiensis - 3 liters of hay, 1 liter of horse manure, 4 tablespoons of mycelium



That sounds like a lot of manure in the TTBVI substrate but I'm not sure if this is translated correctly.

I would try use between 10% to 25% horse manure, and experiment with coir and straw but I would avoid hay.

You don't need to be complicated with the substrate recipe, some people are successful adding only some plant liquid fertilizer to coir for their Pan cyan substrate.

"3 tablespoons of mycelium" do you mean 3 jars of grain spawn?

I always spawn Pan cyans at 1 part grain spawn to 4 parts substrate but I know others prefer to use higher ratios of grain spawn with great success.

TTBVI sometimes does colonise the casing but usually it is OK and will fruit, you can't do much with this grow except maintain proper condtions and keep waiting for now.

Do you have more spores? Maybe you should try a new culture from spore, avoid fluffy mycelium and select for the fine and whispy mycelium.




that's 1 tablespoon.)
In the future I want to try “sapropel” instead of manure. I don't know what it means in English, sapropel is a bottom sediment in a body of water.

Edited by akapulko (05/09/25 08:26 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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Kloakk said:
Puduwoke said:
With these smaller pieces if doing 4 jars.

How long does it normally take for you to fully colonized a grain jar?



If I am doing 4 jars I do this and use one wedge per jar. It usually takes 14 to 25 days depending on genes and amount of grain.



FoxBox said:
personally i use the whole plate, cut to quarters and never picked off the Transfer piece (with pretty good success so far)
could you please elaborate, why you don't use this part? i think if there was any contam by the time you put to grain it will be grown out on the Plate as well and not "stick" to the Transfer piece...?
did i miss sth?



Yeah tigerdrop is a thing and I've done that as well, did fine, now days I just play it safe, it might take a week longer with one small wedge and not several, but I got time and other shit to do so it's fine.

What I don't have time for is throwing out baccy jars and cleaning unnecessary shit, man I really don't like cleaning after 8 years of brewing beer, I'm sick of it :lol:

With that said, with good sterile technique I agree tigerdrop should be fine in most cases.



Kloakk said:
Puduwoke said:
With these smaller pieces if doing 4 jars.


Yeah tigerdrop is a thing and I've done that as well, did fine, now days I just play it safe, it might take a week longer with one small wedge and not several, but I got time and other shit to do so it's fine.

What I don't have time for is throwing out baccy jars and cleaning unnecessary shit, man I really don't like cleaning after 8 years of brewing beer, I'm sick of it :lol:

With that said, with good sterile technique I agree tigerdrop should be fine in most cases.



Maybe i should actually give it a try, my perspective always was that the faster your grains colonise the less prone to contam they are in general so i just used the whole thing :grin:
i must admit i never thought about reducing the risk by using a fairly small Portion of the dish to up the odds it is in fact clean tissue...
there's so many options to go about it and it just never gets boring to see what other people do :smile:
i totally agree on the cleaning thing, though! :laugh:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: FoxBox]
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FoxBox said:
Maybe i should actually give it a try, my perspective always was that the faster your grains colonize the less prone to contam they are in general so i just used the whole thing :grin:
i must admit i never thought about reducing the risk by using a fairly small Portion of the dish to up the odds it is in fact clean tissue...
there's so many options to go about it and it just never gets boring to see what other people do :smile:
i totally agree on the cleaning thing, though! :laugh:



I mean, I just found out my SFD's is defect and don't allow air exchange, so yeah, guess there's many was to go about it with this hobby :lol:

Sorry for my rant, I'm just bummed out I just got 768 SFD's stickers I can't use and the leak-proof plastic lids don't do well as unmodified.

Give it a go and do both, you might prefer it, now that I have enough shrooms for my children's children, I do a lot more experiments that might be better for me way of cultivating, if it fails it fails, no worries..

These SFD's tho...
:cujo:


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“All Fungi are edible.

Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 13
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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Question!

Does anyone know what the deal is with wrinkly looking caps?

Is this just a pheno or an indication of something else? Or do we know?

I have a pretty good flush of Wild Coast coming in now, but the caps look like
my grandmother's chin. My humidity is pretty high and everything looks good
hydration-wise.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 6
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Pan Bispo on agar to AIO a day and a half ago. It is not wasting any time.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 3
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Asura said:
Question!

Does anyone know what the deal is with wrinkly looking caps?

Is this just a pheno or an indication of something else? Or do we know?

I have a pretty good flush of Wild Coast coming in now, but the caps look like
my grandmother's chin. My humidity is pretty high and everything looks good
hydration-wise.



:picsoritdidnthappen:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 9
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Bisporus





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Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 1
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fahtster said:
Asura said:
Question!

Does anyone know what the deal is with wrinkly looking caps?

Is this just a pheno or an indication of something else? Or do we know?

I have a pretty good flush of Wild Coast coming in now, but the caps look like
my grandmother's chin. My humidity is pretty high and everything looks good
hydration-wise.



:picsoritdidnthappen:



Yea, we’re gonna needs some pics of that chin


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster]
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fahtster said:
Asura said:
Question!

Does anyone know what the deal is with wrinkly looking caps?

Is this just a pheno or an indication of something else? Or do we know?

I have a pretty good flush of Wild Coast coming in now, but the caps look like
my grandmother's chin. My humidity is pretty high and everything looks good
hydration-wise.



:picsoritdidnthappen:



Oh you bout to see pics of a big ass flush :lol:


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Cultivating Panaeolus cyanescens


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
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Asura said:
Question!

Does anyone know what the deal is with wrinkly looking caps?

Is this just a pheno or an indication of something else? Or do we know?

I have a pretty good flush of Wild Coast coming in now, but the caps look like
my grandmother's chin. My humidity is pretty high and everything looks good
hydration-wise.



I had it happened to me few times, not a big deal...even when everything seemed to be dialed in right. Just a matter of aesthetics I suppose.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: strawboy] * 3
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strawboy said:
fahtster said:
Asura said:
Question!

Does anyone know what the deal is with wrinkly looking caps?

Is this just a pheno or an indication of something else? Or do we know?

I have a pretty good flush of Wild Coast coming in now, but the caps look like
my grandmother's chin. My humidity is pretty high and everything looks good
hydration-wise.



:picsoritdidnthappen:



Yea, we’re gonna needs some pics of that chin



Panny Granny killin' it :oldman:



ps,
A few mediocre trays before thrown into the compost barrel.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra]
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@astra is it just the pic or are those really that huge? Yoog! All my latest grows
have good flushes but really tiny :smile:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 4
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Might be the picture that makes them look big but the tray (3 inch) itself doesn't help much. The sub depth is about 1.5" casing included so they're probably around 3" or so.. same old same old with these guys.:oldman:

That lone MiB Ginger (Mojave's royal bloodline) tray that didn't fit in the FC so it was left alone to fend for itself, waterboarded twice per day. Harvested 7 times before it was finally retired to compost. First flush, some interesting chubby guys and the final wave. The red tinted caps looked beautiful.


ps,
Apologies for the dirty, sausage looking fingers (prone to inflammation after harvesting a little too many trays at once). :sad:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra] * 8
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As promised, here's a tray of wrinkly ass cyans



Why so wrinkly? :lol:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 5
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Asura said:
As promised, here's a tray of wrinkly ass cyans



Why so wrinkly? :lol:



Your culture was obviously mislabeled.
This is the Pan Cyan var. Wild Coast Cellulite.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 5
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The pan from Oregon I'm growing does that.  To correct I've been keeping the caps wet.  They're sensitive to misting so the humidifier is blowing directly on them (2 minutes on, 13 off).

Getting fogged.



On a lower shelf so no direct fogging.



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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Those are beautiful!

I just harvested and the sub was actually a lot dryer than I thought.
I soaked the sub in about 250 ml of water (which is a lot). Wonder
if I will still see on flush #2.


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