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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger]
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Been out of the game for a hot sec. Any new pokemons dropped?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: HoodedBingling] * 2
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Stagger and a few other folks I sent prints to are working on chlorocystis.  And Supa just fruited 'tea tree'.  Which maybe a different mystery sa strain or a different species altogether.


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I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger]
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stagger said:
astra said:
i killed mine by casing the already colonized casing layer, the mycelium retreated and was never seen again after that lone pin which aborted a few days later.:



If you don't mind me asking,  why did you re-case?



Most likely i forgot they were already cased while i was still harvesting from 9 trays of pan cyans. Basically i fell asleep at the wheel and the grow mega flopped. :sad::shrug:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv]
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SkanskKorv said:
astra said:
Its well known BVI/TTBVI is monster level aggressive, the ochernats of Panyland.

Have you grown pans before? If so, you would know pan cyans or its hybrids do not benefit from consolidation. Once the surface is fully colonized, you case them. Its that simple. Some people give them a day so the mycelium can work on the casing. Others just case and off to the FC.

There is no need to raise or decrease the pH in the substrate at all. Totally unnecessary. Depending on the casing, if you go with peat/verm 50/50 you should add lime to avoid nasties. Mold LOVES peat just so you know. You could also skip the peat and just use plain verm. Thin layer and then a very generous mist. Just don't use anything nutritious as casing, it would defeat its purpose.

One thing i learned back in '13, you do not run pans, they run you. Unlike cubes and many other forgiving species, these guys move lighting fast and expect you to move along with them. They have momentum which is very interesting. Best of Luck :heart::heart:

Edit,
It seems someone else beat me to it and replied to your post. You're welcome to follow their advice. :thumbup:



Btw I forgot to ask but are ochernats ochraceocentrata/natalensis? I can't find anyone else than you saying ochernats hence why I'm a bit confused 😂



YES. i'm just a lazy slob that keeps calling them that way, also sprints (as in spore prints).


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra] * 1
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I'm going to mix these cans of Nec-d with hay manure, but I'm confused by the look of the mycelium in these cans. What do you think? Or am I just being paranoid?)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Nice! Ill get back to your mystery SA myself.. been in agar phase for 3 months now due to the break

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra]
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astra said:
I might be the wrong person to listen to if you're a new comer/first timer. I learned pan cult from Blue and he's not here anymore, i might follow him very soon. Things were never the same without him and its hard to get used to it.

On the bright side, you do seem like a very nice person and SkankKorv would benefit greatly from your knowledge and generosity. :heart::heart:



Follow him in what way? Stop cultivating?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: akapulko]
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akapulko said:




I'm going to mix these cans of Nec-d with hay manure, but I'm confused by the look of the mycelium in these cans. What do you think? Or am I just being paranoid?)



I'm not a fan of the first photo the dense spot on the top right corner. Doesn't mean much though. Just giving me 2 cent:shrug:

I'm sure someone more experienced will come and answer that for you soon

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra] * 1
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astra said:
SkanskKorv said:
astra said:
Its well known BVI/TTBVI is monster level aggressive, the ochernats of Panyland.

Have you grown pans before? If so, you would know pan cyans or its hybrids do not benefit from consolidation. Once the surface is fully colonized, you case them. Its that simple. Some people give them a day so the mycelium can work on the casing. Others just case and off to the FC.

There is no need to raise or decrease the pH in the substrate at all. Totally unnecessary. Depending on the casing, if you go with peat/verm 50/50 you should add lime to avoid nasties. Mold LOVES peat just so you know. You could also skip the peat and just use plain verm. Thin layer and then a very generous mist. Just don't use anything nutritious as casing, it would defeat its purpose.

One thing i learned back in '13, you do not run pans, they run you. Unlike cubes and many other forgiving species, these guys move lighting fast and expect you to move along with them. They have momentum which is very interesting. Best of Luck :heart::heart:

Edit,
It seems someone else beat me to it and replied to your post. You're welcome to follow their advice. :thumbup:



Btw I forgot to ask but are ochernats ochraceocentrata/natalensis? I can't find anyone else than you saying ochernats hence why I'm a bit confused 😂



YES. i'm just a lazy slob that keeps calling them that way, also sprints (as in spore prints).




I've asked this before, and i'm still confused so here I go...

...but natalensis and ochraceocentrata are two different species; which one are you talking about?

or is that an either/or thing?, like they're interchangable.  Do you see them as the same?


ALSO, TreeFrog...

i'm not sure what species you're fruiting above... (i'm aware that you may not know what species it is yet, too)

is anybody growing pan. bisprous from Oregon, yet?  eagerly awaiting those

Edited by Generic (05/03/25 12:59 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra]
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Haha alright then I guess it was clear when I searched for it and only you said it 😂 that makes me even more excited though because I received ochra spores yesterday which I'm putting on agar soon!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Generic] * 3
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I'm growing a pan that was found in oregon.  It's not bispo though it was rumored maybe bispo.

I think it might be olivaceous but we need to let it grow up a little bit to be sure.



There was a bispo found in Vera Cruz.  95.5% sure on this one based on phenotype and climate (it was found in the mountains, so subtropical).  Not sure if it's been sequenced.  Hopefully, I will get a print or a wedge of it soon.  Also, there is some speculation that what we are growing is actually coming in on manure from places in Europe and Africa where it is more common.  I sent the San Diego or maybe the colville in for sequencing.  I'm not sure if the original collections that describe the species were sequenced, but hopefully if they were we will get more information soon.  But there was a species from The Middle East that was recently found and somebody's garden soil in Arizona. So, I imagine they could pop up anywhere when the weather is right thanks to us apes moving the spores around.

There's also a mislabeled cyan from San Marcos Florida going around.  Not bispo, it was misidentified and the sequencing came back cyan.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (05/03/25 01:37 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Is the grass to keep better humidity at the substrate level?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke] * 1
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Hello Motherhuggers.

I have some inoculated MIB plates I'd like some feedback on. I have around 20 plates, these are the easiest/cleanest to photograph.

I have used Asura's old agar recipe:

    10g agar
    7g LME
    500ml water

inoculated from a spore syringe, generally respected vendor.

The germination looks a little 'male excitement' to me, is this how it should look?

Thanks all round. :heart:



Ps,I know my wrapping is more Vanilla Ice than Biggie. I accept that.


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Hitchhikers Guide To The Shroomery

PrimalSoup's Acidic Tea Tek

I'm a respectful NOOB, here to learn. Please correct/critque my technique when it's questionable!




Edited by Cak Le Boof (05/03/25 04:01 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Cak Le Boof] * 2
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What is MIB?
Maybe It’s Bacterial?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ModularMind]
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Pan Cyan MIB


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I'm a respectful NOOB, here to learn. Please correct/critque my technique when it's questionable!




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Cak Le Boof]
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From a MSS, yeah?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ModularMind]
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Shouldn't look like that at all. I only see bacteria, sorry:shrug:

How long since you put the spores on the plates?

Edited by Puduwoke (05/03/25 04:45 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Cak Le Boof] * 2
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Cak Le Boof said:
Hello Motherhuggers.

The germination looks a little 'male excitement' to me, is this how it should look?






No...

You can toss those, unfortunately.
It's supposed to look whispy right from the start.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MycCycle]
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Thanks, 1 week


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PrimalSoup's Acidic Tea Tek

I'm a respectful NOOB, here to learn. Please correct/critque my technique when it's questionable!




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Cak Le Boof]
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These aren't the best pics, but do these areas look more promising for transfers?

Thanks a lot









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I'm a respectful NOOB, here to learn. Please correct/critque my technique when it's questionable!




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