astra said:

Its well known BVI/TTBVI is monster level aggressive, the ochernats of Panyland.

Have you grown pans before? If so, you would know pan cyans or its hybrids do not benefit from consolidation. Once the surface is fully colonized, you case them. Its that simple. Some people give them a day so the mycelium can work on the casing. Others just case and off to the FC.

There is no need to raise or decrease the pH in the substrate at all. Totally unnecessary. Depending on the casing, if you go with peat/verm 50/50 you should add lime to avoid nasties. Mold LOVES peat just so you know. You could also skip the peat and just use plain verm. Thin layer and then a very generous mist. Just don't use anything nutritious as casing, it would defeat its purpose.

One thing i learned back in '13, you do not run pans, they run you. Unlike cubes and many other forgiving species, these guys move lighting fast and expect you to move along with them. They have momentum which is very interesting. Best of Luck

Edit,
It seems someone else beat me to it and replied to your post. You're welcome to follow their advice.

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astra said:

No i don't think i have ever used gypsum for anything other than my tomato, eggplant and cucumber crops.

Perhaps Puduwoke is onto something and knows his/her stuff much better. I'm like really old and kinda outdated so you're better off listening to the younger crowd and experiment for science. Best of luck

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astra said:

No i don't think i have ever used gypsum for anything other than my tomato, eggplant and cucumber crops.

Perhaps Puduwoke is onto something and knows his/her stuff much better. I'm like really old and kinda outdated so you're better off listening to the younger crowd and experiment for science. Best of luck

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No don't listen to me. I have a few successful pan grows under my belt. But people should take my advice with a grain of salt as I only base my answers based on what I learnt on here from Jake and Asura

Seeing new growers starting with pans so early gives me so much joy it's crazy!

Bra said:

On that note, what is the actual classification of Panaeolus Weza? Are they cyans, bisporus, or something in between? I'm not sure how to refer to them correctly, as they look quite similar to cyans and bisporus at the same time.

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stagger said:

3 they're looking healthy, I love the caps.  The Burringbar I was able to fruit had the best looking bell shaped caps, nicer than any cyans I've gotten lucky with before.  I failed that grow lol, goin to try em again during summer:)

A different bisporus culture (WA), pinning at 17 days like the other, also faster than the chlorocystis spawned  and cased all the same days. And cholo pin getting a little company, considerably slower in pinning and maturing than bisporus.




I predict this tub will be 25g lighter later this evening

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Your tubs are looking fantastic, i killed mine by casing the already colonized casing layer, the mycelium retreated and was never seen again after that lone pin which aborted a few days later. Perhaps I was never meant to grow bispos lol, must be some sort of supernatural sign for me to stop trying and stick to semps. I'm truly sorry for letting you down.

astra said:

.. right now i'm drowning in pan cyans

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astra said:

i killed mine by casing the already colonized casing layer, the mycelium retreated and was never seen again after that lone pin which aborted a few days later.:

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astra said:

Its well known BVI/TTBVI is monster level aggressive, the ochernats of Panyland.

Have you grown pans before? If so, you would know pan cyans or its hybrids do not benefit from consolidation. Once the surface is fully colonized, you case them. Its that simple. Some people give them a day so the mycelium can work on the casing. Others just case and off to the FC.

There is no need to raise or decrease the pH in the substrate at all. Totally unnecessary. Depending on the casing, if you go with peat/verm 50/50 you should add lime to avoid nasties. Mold LOVES peat just so you know. You could also skip the peat and just use plain verm. Thin layer and then a very generous mist. Just don't use anything nutritious as casing, it would defeat its purpose.

One thing i learned back in '13, you do not run pans, they run you. Unlike cubes and many other forgiving species, these guys move lighting fast and expect you to move along with them. They have momentum which is very interesting. Best of Luck

Edit,
It seems someone else beat me to it and replied to your post. You're welcome to follow their advice.

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