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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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Metal mouse :thumbup:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 3
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The truth is unless you live in some sort of special house without a chewable exterior that doesn't have a basement, crawlspace, attic or wall cavities, we all live with either rats or mice.

As soon as humans made shelter they have been with us. Surface logic says it's not healthy to breathe in their excretions, etc. But do we know how well we would fare as a species without them? :shrug:

I don't think outdoor cats are the answer. Cats kill everything including birds, lizards, snakes, butterflies, bunnies, etc. Not even gonna mention cats carry brain parasites.

I designed/built my house to exclude them, tired of the fight. Exclusion is the only sustainable way.


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gentle and kind

Another way to live

Your ego is your nemesis.
Seek the truth tirelessly,
Even at the cost of your own sanity.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight] * 3
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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/is-the-iss-too-clean-for-astronauts-health-new-study-finds-the-space-station-lacks-microbial-diversity-180986141/

Fear of microbes is paddling upstream.


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Question everything, it's very responsive.

Culture Storage

Edited by Nichrome (03/30/25 04:03 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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KlarnEvil9 said:
I'm all for live and let live and all that hippie shit, but all bets are off when it comes to vermin. Fuck mice, rats, squirrels, chipmunks, groundhogs, et al. Growing up, we always had a garden, and the above listed creatures made it their life's work to fuck that garden over. Not just have a snack, but actually destroy plants beyond repair, and leave behind mites and ticks to finish the job.

If I didn't live in a subdivision, I would be going through many boxes of shotgun shells a week. And I should probably get some kitty treats for the cats that roam around the yard. Saw one with a huge rat in it's mouth one day, coming out of my crawlspace. Good kitty!


I’m the same way, in the old house the varmints would eat the produce from our garden but not even eat the whole thing, like 1/4 of a tomato and then go ruin the next ones.

I’m 100% against animal cruelty but I did kill them all and a couple squirrels that came around. The squirrels destroyed the entire park out there by digging holes and turned a green lush park into a shit hole and they were about half way through destroying the schools ball parks and fields. I don’t think they had any empathy for that old neighborhood.

Cats are a good option but they don’t kill immediately, they like to fuck with their food until they eventually die

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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LewDoja said:
@Tree

Aren't the fireworks fun!?!


For sure, I thought I won a prize!

And I think I waited about an hour to start posting again...


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I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog] * 1
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When I first hit 1000 It was hard but managed a day or two.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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Churpee Choozle said:
Most mammals have at least the same levels of empathy. The bond between a cow and her calf, for example, doesn't differ at all from the bond between a human mother and her baby. It's the exact same oxytocin positive feedback loop. Yet we treat the calf as an industry byproduct.


My wife used to work at a dairy farm. They would keep the calfs with their mothers until they were old enough to go into the heffer barn. They'd stay there until they were old enough to have calves of their own. As soon as the heffer was big enough to return to the main herd it would immediately reunite with its mother. A year plus apart couldn't make them forget eachother.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Noob here. This is only my 3rd set of cakes. These are Golden Teacher via LC into verm & brf. Then set in water tank. My other attempts were amazing but I am questioning the blue on these. Is this what contamination looks like? TIA for all the help.




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Liza] * 2
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Just bruising. Nothing to worry about


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Vegeta]
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Hey all,

I just spawned two unmodified monotubs ala bod's tek, and am wondering what the current consensus is on spawning straight to fruiting condtions and misting. Is it still advised to go straight to FC? and if so, should I start misting or wait until colonization? The walls of the tub are slightly foggy but don't have water droplets or anything.

Thanks!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: semicolonlove]
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Always put into FC from the get go, as far as misting goes. I would keep track of it and mist if the cake starts drying out. Otherwise, I reckon you don't need to bother.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: semicolonlove]
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Welcome! You're at the right place, you should check out The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery and Proper Surface Moisture / When to Increase FAE. The HHG has a full guide of more current info on how to get started and what to look out for.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Vegeta]
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Thank you!!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Liza] * 2
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Lol im excited. I do have a question but I just want to give a little info first. I finally did everything on my own.  Made everything and used cultures from givaways. 

I made my own agar. I put some spores and wedges to plates made some transfers.  cleaned them up. Put those plates to Grain jars. That I made my self. Up until now I had used pre sterilized vendor bags I bought in the beginning and finally made my way through all of them. 

The jars have finished and they are very nice looking. 


Also 23 successful shoe boxes and 12 pf grows to my name.  But they were all done with vendor LCS that were untested into those vendor pre sterilized bags

This is the first time nothing is a Gamble and I'm confident to finally move forward and do a mono!!lol yay!:foshizzle:

Its gonna be some orchas. Figured since they're so aggressive alongside of contamination and tend to be able to still fruit a lot of the time, They would be a good choice to try for my first mono.
So ya. plz

WISH ME LUCK!


Anyways sorry for being so long but here's the question. When I spawn into my mono and level the substrate. do I need to be compressing as much as I would do for a shoebox? or is that not so much necessary because of the liner I'll have in there?

And does it matter how thin the liner is? Like a grocery bag or a trash bag or painters plastic etc. Does it all work?


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Edited by callmehippie (03/30/25 11:20 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
When I spawn into my mono and level the substrate. do I need to be compressing as much as I would do for a shoebox? or is that not so much necessary because of the liner I'll have in there?

And does it matter how thin the liner is? Like a grocery bag or a trash bag or painters plastic etc. Does it all work?


I'll take a stab at these but haven't actually run a mono so I'll just cite my reasoning.

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Stipe's Top Layer/Pseudo-casing said:
In my quest for efficient time and materials management I've discovered that applying a thick top layer of at least 1 inch to PE (preferably1.5-2 inches) prevents blobs and promotes an even pinset, and at least a 1 inch compressed layer for all other varieties.

Thickness and compression of the substrate are both equally important as the compression and leveling of the substrate creates a boundary between top layer and substrate as mentioned below


And that post is for mono's so I would say yes compression is a good thing, I know Beefy Tubs also call for compression but those are only 16Qt iirc.

Liners are to help prevent side pins (in theory) because they stick to the wall of the tub and also to the substrate when it starts to shrink thus preventing additional evaporation that happens near the walls and the sub after it has shrunk so thickness of plastic really shouldn't matter, but it's my understanding that you do want two layers (e.g. place a whole bag in the bottom and then trim just above your surface level.) Some folks say liners aren't necessary if you compress your sub well when spawning paying particular attention to the edges and corners.

Hope this helps, sorry if any of this info is wrong/old.

Edited by sage_bd (03/31/25 12:05 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: semicolonlove]
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semicolonlove said:
Hey all,

I just spawned two unmodified monotubs ala bod's tek, and am wondering what the current consensus is on spawning straight to fruiting condtions and misting. Is it still advised to go straight to FC? and if so, should I start misting or wait until colonization? The walls of the tub are slightly foggy but don't have water droplets or anything.

Thanks!


IMO it doesn't really matter.  unless you have your tub unusually sealed, there's going to be enough air exchange for fruiting to take off as soon as the mycelium hits its colonization threshold. 

that said, current industrial best practice is to restrict o2 ingress during colonization to both speed mycelial growth as well as to deny o2 to any contam. this gives the mycelium an opportunity to fully colonize and protect its food and water sources before the introduction of o2 for fruiting. 

Edited by dinosaurs (03/31/25 03:00 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight] * 1
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LK, you're my hero. The peppermint oil did it. And yes, my house is 100% mouse and 90% mosquito sealed, because I don't intend to fight them on home turf. I kill mosquitoes, yeah, bad hippie.

And indeed, just seal off what needs to be sealed off. I am building a cage for my oysters. Until then, peppermint it will be.

The cacti are outside now, the game now is to scale all the cacti and squeak. They don't eat them or dig them up.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog] * 1
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tree frog said:
koma23 said:
tree frog said:
koma23 said:


How do we do PE grows today? spawn: sub ratio? Do we compress? And what about casing, still yes? And is it still pasteurized 50 50+? How do you pasteurize; bucket tek or termometer and a pot? Thank you <3


Like this.  No casing needed.  The spawn ratio is etc in the thread. And I would suggest watching the video to understand how to compress and top dress.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27426583


Thank you. I remember reading through that thread some time ago, but didn't realize he uses a pseudo casing also for PE.

Is this how you grow PE too? Applying a CV pseudo casing at spawn?

I thought that a pseudo casing isn't really applicable as the mycelium basically just colonizes it ...


The whole reason he developed this approach was for PE.

I don't grow cubes myself.  But if I did, I would grow PE and use his tek.

And a casing should colonize btw.  Just not to the point of overlay.  Most of what a casing is doing is holding a lot of water near the surface, so the mycelium can use it to mature well.

A true casing serves some other purposes.  But, for PE.  The psuedo-casing seems to do the trick.


I've been doing his tek basically for a year straight at this point. But haven't gotten past page 2 of that thread. I've read through the whole thread now, tnx for remind me of it and emphasizing it's usable for PE!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: koma23]
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I think I used a a secretly yeasty jar in g2g. I have 10 now that show signs of yeast despite still having great mycelial growth.

Can I still get a flush from these?

What does yeast look like on agar? Is it possible that it was from my skin in the SAB? Those jars might've not been as cleaned as usual, only scrubbed instead of dish soaped. Could that be it (not luiklely since 1:45 in PC at 16psi)


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The Official Wild Cubensis Thread
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies]
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Like this


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Beef’s The Hitchikers Guide to Shroomery
Stipe’s Clean Spawn Checklist
Gummies by milkboy
Eat’s Easy Oats Prep
DV8DUG’s Recognizing Contamination in Grain Jars

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