akapulko said:

Pepperjack85 said:

What are you using as a fruiting chamber? You probably need a lot more fae.

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akapulko said:

Today I decided to pasteurize the substrate in the multicooker for the first time.3 liters of moistened coconut fiber and 750ml of (dry) horse manure, I hope the manure will be enough

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akapulko said:

Pepperjack85 said:

What are you using as a fruiting chamber? You probably need a lot more fae.

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You can always turn your tent into a giant JCM if shit goes south. Dialing the variables is the hardest part. I did it for a few years, got fed up with the constant black mold breakouts surrounding the tent. Having to bleach so often messed with my asthma but plenty of people run their tents flawlessly so its entirely possible you can as well.

As for pan cyans growing in hay/straw/etc yes they will fruit, hell, they will fruit without grain or manure added to the straw if you were to inoculate with liquid culture. The problem is not many growers are happy with the small yields compared to the nitrogen (manure/fertilizer) based substrate. I've grown them out of plain coir/verm, zero manure, inside a bucket outdoors, lid on and everything.

stagger said:

Finally one of the cyan leaf substrates doing something.  This one has a bit of compost (no dung) added, spawned Feb 11, cased Feb 19....I'm not very confident in using leaves again, but I used such a large sub to spawn ratio that I'm left unsure why they didn't perform like the others.

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rhizoRider said:

I finally got to try wild fresh phillipines pans and have to say it's a different rush than I was used too. So clear clean and visual but not the mindfuk and pans gave me incredible body buzz sensations too. I ate two piles fresh one in fields then more in Airbnb

Just this got me to float

I added whole handful of smashed ones after a few hrs stayed up all night

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oktopus said:

oh boy oh boy oh boy. This is my first time using a JCM chamber. This setup is almost set and forget, but of course, I'm bad at "forget" part and peeking every day

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Welcome to the dark side, honey

tree frog said:

Some folks csse with straight vermiculite.

Of what you have on hand, that's what I would suggest using.  You want a pH shift from the substrate to the casing.  Coir tends to run 5-6.  Verm should be 7.

It's not going to be as easy to work with as a peat-based casing, such as something you prep yourself or jiffy-mix.  But, I know there's folks that only use vermiculite and do pretty well with it.

I'm not that person so, someone else will have to chime in on if there's best practices to use it.  I think a friend of mine said that he applies it dry and just mists it lightly.

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Old school peat/verm+ casings used to be a pain in the ass but once i switched from ocassionally pasteurizing to sterilizing full time i can pretty much run them in bulk and have them in stock as needed, the longest sleeve of casing i had on standby is nearly 3 years old, no sign of decay/mold. They do end up drying up the longer they stay unused but zero issues in my experience (just give it a generous mist when laid out). I've cased with cactus soil when running out of peat but the extra akadama and perlite didn't please me tbh. Different strokes for different folks.

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SkanskKorv said:

I just inoculated my first pan jars! I'm so excited to see them grow 😁 I wanna give a massive thanks to everyone who helped pointing me in the right direction and especially to astra and stagger who so kindly sent me spores. This would have been impossible without you two!!❤️

These are Astra's TTBVI and MIB, next set of jars will be stagger's bisporus and peace river 🙂

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