Kloakk said:

04.03.25

x7x+


There are a lot of fruits not even close to harvest yet, but some are sporulating, I've read that x7x+ are heavy on the spores, what to do?

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Kloakk said:

05.03.25

Harvested the first of four x7x+ mini mono's today.

Variety: x7x+
Tub: 5qt Ez dial
Spawn: wheat
Amount of spawn: 8,5 fl oz
Ratio: 1:4+1(pseudo casing)

76g wet



Found some lovers in the corner


Took 12 caps to print.


Tub was punished, floating lotus and back on shelf

In other news, the TWxPE6 is almost ready for last brake&shake before bulk.

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Kloakk said:

x7x+


There are a lot of fruits not even close to harvest yet, but some are sporulating, I've read that x7x+ are heavy on the spores, what to do?

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nektar61 said:

I'd cut the ready ones near the base with scissors and let the others grow.

I never keep the bottom part with verm on it with any variety, I chop them with scissors just above that, even if I twist out that part to harvest. Even though it's throwing away some actives, so what. It's saving the best parts with no grit.

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nektar61 said:

Sometimes I grow a flush, then flip the whole cake into a new shoebox, water the hell out of it, and grow on the old bottom, which is now the new top.

Recommended practice for harvesting used to be harvesting just before they open up. (like a decade ago or more, especially in books.)

Then they won't have spores all over, but you actually get more weight and same (maybe more) potency letting them open.

I think a lot of people went to "let them fully open" because it looks cool in photos. haha.

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Yeah, I don't harvest when they start to open, but I would like to harvest before they are covered with spores, I admit, I like a good picture before harvest and they look pretty similar when covered in spores

I've been doing Beefs punisher tek after first flush, now I am doing a lighter version of that and floating lotus, but I'll try the "flip tek" with the second x7x+ tub, probably tomorrow.

nektar61 said:

Since you're learning so fast, maybe look into starting to clone. If you pick the best cluster, clone it, and grow future boxes from that, it will all come up more closely together in time, be more consistent potency and look. (Though look can still vary a little bit in clones)

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Will do, I have taken some clones of Ochra, Riptide and Toque F8 and will probably do it with every variety I grow. The first tub with x7x+ didn't have something obvious standing out, even tho they are gorgeous shrooms, and I have 3 more tubs with x7x+ going so I'm sure I'll find a good candidate to clone

nektar61 said:

You're doing really well and I gave you a good rating because you're doing so well, even though you started this thread two months ago with this:

Kloakk said:

I got a swab of x7x+ today, (thanks to sender) so why not join. I'm a noob and will probably fall on my ass, but that could be entertaining right? I'm in

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Thanks for the kind words and rating.

nektar61 said:

Are you putting a full myco quart of spawn in each box? Those look a little small and also pretty deep down in the tub. Most people put at least an inch more total in there so they're higher up in the box. (Your other box of same variety on this page looked like bigger shrooms though, can't see in that pic how low the substrate is since you're got a canopy!)

Even with same amount of spawn, with a little more coir and verm I guess they'd be bigger, since it would take a little longer to fully colonize the box, which is has to do before mushrooms happen.

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No, every time I start with a new variety I'll do 8,5 fl oz of spawn to a 5qt mini mono with a ratio between 1:2+1 and up to 1:4+1. Just coir.

I have only posted one of my x7x+ tubs so both pictures are the same tub 24 hours apart. That tub has 1:4+1 ratio and I was a little surprised the fruits where that small, might have been low on moisture

Now that I have fruits, and more important, spores, I'll find a good clone from one of the four tubs with x7x+ and test in another 5qt, but I'll also go back to the original plate(that's been through CS, just to be sure it's clean) and do a full myco qt in a 16qt tub with the same 1:4+1 ratio.

nektar61 said:

I think extra coir and verm, even though it's not really a nutrient, would give mycelium more time to organize, which might make bigger shrooms. Just a guess though.

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For me it seems it's mostly genetic, but I'm sure I could get better at field capacity and dialing in my tubs, and of course, use more spawn. It's winter here and humidity is pretty low inside the house. Pictures below are the second x7x+ tub and ESS, they where sent to bulk the same day and have the same ratio and tub.




Thank you for the comprehensive answer, it really helps me and I really appreciate you seeing and telling me I am getting better, I put a lot of hours in this hobby even tho a lot of it is reading.

tripdawg420 said:

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fuck yeah!!

Kloakk said:

06.03.25

Pulled the second x7x+ tub today. Got  better on this




Gave it the punysher tek(my light version of Beef's punisher tek) and floating lotus. I chickened out on flippin it(sorry Nektar61), it just looked to pretty around the edges and bottom, but I will try it with one of the other two, promise

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DV8DUG said:

3-7-2025

P. Cubensis ~ JFPE

First Flush 20 qt.

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KlarnEvil9 said:

My first LAGM '25 plin!!! And it's an OkraNat!



This little guy is going straight to agar... might split it to make a double.

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