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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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OOOOHHHHH .... now I get it. Well ... off to study casing some more :grin:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maplepine] * 2
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in this context u dont need to study casing :crazy2:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40] * 1
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These plates are pretty overgrown... I'm about to send them all to grain. Shouldn't be an issue right?





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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pin]
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No visible contamn. You should be A-ok


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Can you case pan cyan with coir/verm?

Edit: I don't know shit about "real" casing layers with peat. I've only cased cubes a couple times using CV. If anyone can point me in the right direction and send me a good and up to date link about casing layers and how to make them it would be greatly appreciated!


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Edited by Jrey16 (02/19/25 10:09 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16] * 2
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Jrey16 said:
Can you case pan cyan with coir/verm?

Edit: I don't know shit about "real" casing layers with peat. I've only cased cubes a couple times using CV. If anyone can point me in the right direction and send me a good and up to date link about casing layers and how to make them it would be greatly appreciated!


From my understanding a casing layer is made up of peat, verm, and sometimes coir and in most cases is neutral to slightly alkaline. It is made slightly more moist than the sub. It is applied post colonization of the sub, and is applied more loosely than the sub. It acts as a moisture reservoir, a contamn barrier, allowing a more conducive microclimate for knotting and pinning.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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Method for pasteurizing small volumes of casing - RoscoeReturns

Faht's - Detailed Peat/Verm Casing Prep Instructions

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Edited by LewDoja (02/19/25 11:37 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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Thank you guys!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maplepine]
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The jargon can be confusing at first-
This is a little out dated but will help Cultivation glossary

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Casing - Some mushrooms need a covering layer of soil with a specific microflora for Fruiting. Casing materials include peat  and vermiculite; additives include calcium carbonate,calcium hydroxide (hydrated lime) and crushed oyster shells.

Spawn - Culture of mycelium on grain, sawdust, etc., used to inoculate the final substrate, or bulk.

Substrate -Whatever you're using to grow the mushrooms on. Different varieties ofmushroom like to eat different things (rice, rye grain, straw, compost,woodchips, birdseed). Different techniques involve infecting substrateswith anything from spores, to chopped-up Mycelium, to blended mushroom.


Edited by LewDoja (02/19/25 12:22 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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How does this growth look on a shoebox after 7 days of spawning to coir?  1:1.5 grain to coir with a coir casing layer. Is this the amount of growth that would be expected after this time frame?  Does it look dry at all?  I put the lid on and left it alone except for take the picture. Do I just keep the lid closed until fruits start to pop up?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: suicideprevention] * 1
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Looks good keep lid loose till it Fruits then offset.

If gets light brown over more area than just the bottom maybe consider a  VERY FINE mist . But try to avoid till you get a good pinset

Edited by LewDoja (02/19/25 03:30 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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So flip the lid upside down or just put it on the correct way but don't snap into place? I feel like I read about flipping the lid somewhere before

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: suicideprevention] * 1
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It looks like it may dry out too much if you do that right now...

Itd probably be fine to snap lid for a bit to conserve moisture.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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I made a shoe box for some PE last night.very clean spawn.

So I went for a 1:4.5..
Ive been wanting to follow stipes lead and make one filled all the way to the rim. Finally had the opportunity and I got pretty close this time.

The question is are we supposed to be packing the pseudos as much as they sub? Cuz I have been. Haven't really caused any issues. I'm just curious if if it makes a difference?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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as long as you have a good inch of plain coir smothering the hard-on of the grain, you're gucci :rockon:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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I pack the casing as hard as I pack the sub below it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Axman said:
I pack the casing as hard as I pack the sub below it.


Me too, also after it colonizes, I’ll put another, packed casing on PE

Patience with PE, they take a while


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Headass]
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Is it better to smake small jars of millet if I'm planning to use them for g2g? Are there any benefits to small batches?

Like a half pints worth of millet.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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callmehippie said:
Is it better to smake small jars of millet if I'm planning to use them for g2g? Are there any benefits to small batches?

Like a half pints worth of millet.


I've done ½ pints and ¼ pints of rye for g2g, it works well, no reason not to.

Which is better is personal preference as a quart will easily g2g to 10 quarts. And obviously the ½ pint won't have as much coverage but will colonize faster.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman] * 1
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Axman said:
callmehippie said:
Is it better to smake small jars of millet if I'm planning to use them for g2g? Are there any benefits to small batches?

Like a half pints worth of millet.


I've done ½ pints and ¼ pints of rye for g2g, it works well, no reason not to.

Which is better is personal preference as a quart will easily g2g to 10 quarts. And obviously the ½ pint won't have as much coverage but will colonize faster.



I guess I was wondering if you're doing something that small  does bacteria or mold have time to show up before it colonizes and appears clean? Or is that a good thing if it dosnt


Or is that even an issue anybody runs into? Seems like if it colonizes quicker. And the bacteria or mold will show up just as quick then small batches would be my preference.


Also.  How much does millet expand after the soak.  no boil..

Is it like the other grains and seeds?

I'm trying not to end up with too much extra so let's say I'm trying to make 12 quart jars. How many jars should I measure out?

Obviously a little leftovers no big deal I'll throw them into some half pints I have.


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