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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Peleus] * 2
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Made a post but ill ask here as well:

I have a mutant strain of my own making, derived from Husky, which is a standard cubensis that I was gifted without a name.

OG Mutant



Some tubs





I got two clones from this tub, the flower mutation in the middle, and the behemoth which was 100g+. It was from the big one that I took the swab.



So here is what plates from that swab are looking like. Looks like the sort of mutations that I got from the clone, not standard pins.





What the original clone plates looked like



I have just spawned tubs made from grain jars of this, so I will find out for sure soon. But, I'm surprised that it passed on the mutation so easily. Enigma doesn't sporulate, The Thing does.

Has this happened before? Are there mutant varieties that are reliably still consistent via spores (does PE count?)


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies]
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Yes just look at all the toques.

Different expression than yours obviously, but still results from a Tidal wave mutation and is passed along

Edited by LewDoja (02/15/25 04:30 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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Quick Questions:
1) Have held 75 degrees F from the start. Should I be dropping the temp for fruiting?
2) Should I be misting? I have a humidity gauge arriving end of day tomorrow but in the meantime?




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mark_M] * 1
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70-78° is perfect, they (might benefit from small fluctuations as in nature)

But RH gauge is not very accurate nor is it necessary... most ppl here (without automated systems) don't have them.

You'll be better off looking into a water tub vs what ever the hell that is (coir bed?):shrug:
If there's only that one cake in the tub try a fahtlock...

you've got mushrooms! Just LITFA...

Edited by LewDoja (02/15/25 04:42 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Hey all

Other than being a pain to shake, is there a downside to having grain jars that are too full? I soaked the millet for 16 hours, figuring it wouldn't absorb too much more during PC. I put in 650-700ml in each wart jar, ended up with about 900ml.

Obviously a pain to shake and declump. Other than that, any real issue?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BonsaidMycelium] * 1
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As long as it's not touching the filter, you should be fine.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mush_monkey] * 1
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mush_monkey said:
Is there any way to salvage badly preserved mushrooms?

Asking becauseI have almost 14 ounces of 7 1/2 months old mushrooms that have absorbed humidity to the point that you can make a knot with them.

I was thinking of chopping them and make some tea, but Im not sure how to dose it, other than keep drinking till I feel something.

Thanks for any suggestion!


Best bet is to toss them back into the dehydrator to get them back to cracker dry. Then repack them in better containers or vac bags.

If you want to make a tea just figure out how many ounces you are using, then divide total liquid by grams total used. So 1oz is 28g dry. Say you end up with 500ml liquid after making tea. 500/28= 17.8571428571 Minus a little loss in the dregs and lack of 100% extraction let's say about 20ml would equal about 1 gram dry. These are estimates not actual. Use my dosing at your own risk. I think my math is good here but I'm high so I could be way the hell off. :stoned2:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mush_monkey] * 2
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mush_monkey said:
Is there any way to salvage badly preserved mushrooms?

Asking becauseI have almost 14 ounces of 7 1/2 months old mushrooms that have absorbed humidity to the point that you can make a knot with them.

I was thinking of chopping them and make some tea, but Im not sure how to dose it, other than keep drinking till I feel something.

Thanks for any suggestion!


:whathesaid: to re-stabilize them for storage, but I recommend trying some to see how bad they degraded, I've had a few oz go bendy on me before and they've had little to no effect when eating 10+g re-dehydrated. Whereas before they went bad 2g was strong enough for me to feel it.

Dosage on them will be difficult to find out, but I recommend to start by re-dehydrating them, and then taking 3.5g and use that as a benchmark.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
70-78° is perfect, they (might benefit from small fluctuations as in nature)



Great - thanks. It's been super steady so maybe I'll let it vary a bit.

LewDoja said:
But RH gauge is not very accurate nor is it necessary... most ppl here (without automated systems) don't have them.


Oh well:) There was all this talk about humidity, dryness etc. and I wanted to find out just to know.. RH is (supposedly) +-3% which is not great but will give me a ballpark. Less than $10. in any case:)

LewDoja said:
You'll be better off looking into a water tub vs what ever the hell that is (coir bed?):shrug:
If there's only that one cake in the tub try a fahtlock...


Oh yeah I looked at that, the ziplocks? Like the all-in-one I started but a bunch more air space in the bag. Might try that or something similar next.

LewDoja said:
you've got mushrooms! Just LITFA...


I know - it's a trip! Been a fun process and I love the visual intensity of this thing right now - it really seems alive!:smile:

p.s. yes the bed is coir. The mycellium is spreading quickly into it, maybe I'll even get some fruit down there, who knows. But I have a huge block of it so I'll probably use it again:)

Edited by Mark_M (02/15/25 06:13 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
Yes just look at all the toques.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mark_M]
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Does it mean anything that this one dropped its veil today? Does that just happen sometimes or is an indicator of anything?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mark_M]
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Totally normal, some like to pick at that stage, I say wait a day


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mark_M]
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Mark_M said:
Does it mean anything that this one dropped its veil today? Does that just happen sometimes or is an indicator of anything?




Losing it's veil is part of the growing process. Your children are growing up!

Or do you maybe mean it is a sporeless variant and you're afraid something is wrong? With my PE uncut I have it all the time as well (that the veil tears). They don't drop spores though. Which is as desired.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork]
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Hey I’ve got the [autoclavable] petris but am wanting to sterilize in tins in the oven, the product listing says they can withstand 250 in the PC but doesn’t really mention a max? Any insight on max temp I could bake these suckers?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tri]
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The vabiooth ones are polycarbonate: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate

Looks like you definitely want to keep it under 147 °C (glass transition temperature), and probably well below that.

Why not just pressure cook them?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tri]
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Tri said:
Hey I’ve got the [autoclavable] petris but am wanting to sterilize in tins in the oven, the product listing says they can withstand 250 in the PC but doesn’t really mention a max? Any insight on max temp I could bake these suckers?


My feeling is that in the oven (with dry heat) they will melt, if you do it too long.

I'm not sure though, but asked AI to get some more insights (assuming you meant with agar):

Can you sterilize pp5 containers with agar  in the oven?
ChatGPT said:
Polypropylene (#5 PP) containers can withstand moderate heat, but their tolerance depends on the specific formulation. Generally, PP has a melting point between 160–170°C (320–338°F), but it can start softening at lower temperatures.

If you plan to sterilize PP5 containers with agar in the oven, keep in mind:

Dry Heat Sterilization (Oven) – Not ideal for PP:

Dry heat sterilization typically requires 160–180°C (320–356°F) for 1–2 hours, which is too high for most PP5 containers. They may warp, deform, or melt.
Alternative: Pressure Cooker or Autoclave (Preferred)

Most PP5 containers can withstand autoclaving at 121°C (250°F) for 15–20 minutes under pressure.
Make sure the lids are loose or use vented containers to avoid pressure buildup.
Conclusion:
Using an oven for sterilization is not recommended for PP5 containers with agar, as the dry heat method requires temperatures higher than PP’s heat tolerance. Instead, use a pressure cooker or autoclave, which uses moist heat at a safe temperature.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tri]
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There are sterilizing sleeves.
I don’t know about putting them in the oven, but that would definitely be the place to start.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tri]
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Tri said:
Hey I’ve got the [autoclavable] petris but am wanting to sterilize in tins in the oven, the product listing says they can withstand 250 in the PC but doesn’t really mention a max? Any insight on max temp I could bake these suckers?


I immediately assumed the PP5 containers with screw lids. Which ones are you actually talking about?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork]
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I assume he’s just talking about the borciliate glass Petri dishes where it’s just two pieces


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tri]
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Tri said:
Hey I’ve got the [autoclavable] petris but am wanting to sterilize in tins in the oven, the product listing says they can withstand 250 in the PC but doesn’t really mention a max? Any insight on max temp I could bake these suckers?


The polycarbonate dishes are easy enough to toss in the PC with the agar ( so are pp5 and glass for that matter )



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