HILLBILLY OUTLAW said:

So we’re treating our subs with fire now. One second I’ll be right back.

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BeefSupremeJr said:

I can confess to completely unconventional shit I do all the time here ahahahah.

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Had an idea this week to do something different. I have taken very clean spore "prints" this way and had pretty much 100% success. I call it my Spore-a-lator. Basically I put 20ml of water in the bottom of this and then PC it for 20 minutes.



The top half (a smaller jar that fits snugly into the bottom one) is where I put the cap because that way the cap never touches the "print water" below as the spores just fall into the sterile water and then I use the SHIP to suck them out and I have a really clean spore syringe that is packed to the gills with spores and ready to use immediately or store for later.



So what I decided to try for the hell of it, is instead of putting water in the bottom I'd usually suck into a sterile syringe, instead I put about a half inch of RGS and then PC'd it to find out if the spore drop was clean enough to colonize and pin for clones in one easy step or would it all contaminate??? Keeping in mind, the cap never physically touches the bottom jar with the RGS. After about 12 hours of spore dropping, I just pull off the top jar that has the cap in it and twist the top of the jar with the RGS down tight and see what happens.

So when I woke up this morning this is what it looks like. I did the spore drop on the 13th so it's been 5 days and the growth is right where the spores dropped. Mycelium, at least today, is beating the contams if there are any in there.



Any bets on whether it contaminates or puts up pins?

I've literally made dozens of spore syringes like this and nearly all of them grew out very clean pucks that were use for G2G transfers to jars that grew out clean enough to fruit really well.

BeefSupremeJr said:

its not to get it to absorb its to keep humidity up

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KauaiOrca said:

BeefSupremeJr said:

I can confess to completely unconventional shit I do all the time here ahahahah.

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Had an idea this week to do something different. I have taken very clean spore "prints" this way and had pretty much 100% success. I call it my Spore-a-lator. Basically I put 20ml of water in the bottom of this and then PC it for 20 minutes.



The top half (a smaller jar that fits snugly into the bottom one) is where I put the cap because that way the cap never touches the "print water" below as the spores just fall into the sterile water and then I use the SHIP to suck them out and I have a really clean spore syringe that is packed to the gills with spores and ready to use immediately or store for later.



So what I decided to try for the hell of it, is instead of putting water in the bottom I'd usually suck into a sterile syringe, instead I put about a half inch of RGS and then PC'd it to find out if the spore drop was clean enough to colonize and pin for clones in one easy step or would it all contaminate??? Keeping in mind, the cap never physically touches the bottom jar with the RGS. After about 12 hours of spore dropping, I just pull off the top jar that has the cap in it and twist the top of the jar with the RGS down tight and see what happens.

So when I woke up this morning this is what it looks like. I did the spore drop on the 13th so it's been 5 days and the growth is right where the spores dropped. Mycelium, at least today, is beating the contams if there are any in there.



Any bets on whether it contaminates or puts up pins?

I've literally made dozens of spore syringes like this and nearly all of them grew out very clean pucks that were use for G2G transfers to jars that grew out clean enough to fruit really well.

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Mwj12977 said:

LadysKnight said:

Mwj12977 said:

LadysKnight said:

Do you do much strenuous labor or sweating in general?

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I work out 4-5 times a week and hit it pretty hard. I’m in good shape. Healthy for 47. The reason for the monitor is to check for anything irregular that may be causing the light headedness.

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I have experience with dizziness. Happened to me at about that age. I happened to be tripping first time I lost consciousness. I was walking around naked in the moonlight, and woke up on my face, leg broken, spiral fracture. After all the tests, a few epileptic mis-diagnosis, and a good neurologist later, it was something called vasovagal syncope. It's caused by lack of electrolytes. It is brought on by lots of labor/sweating, then later that night, usually after weed, I would get a quick flash of nausea, then wake up on the floor a minute later.

I now make sure I balance my electrolytes, mostly in the summer. No problem since. A few years after my leg break, a friend had the same injury. From the same condition. So, there's that.

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Brother that is exactly what happened to me! Twice! I’ve actually narrowed it down with all of my Dr appointments in the last few weeks. My ENT is pretty sure it’s ménière’s disease. Inner ear disorder that is treatable.  Both times it happened I had crazy pressure in one of my ears. Vertigo set in and next thing I knew I was on the ground waking up. Ménière’s typically sets in on males 40-60.

On New Year’s Day I got up in the middle of the night for some water. Wasn’t tripping anymore but did earlier in the evening. Got to the top of my stairs and vertigo hit me like a freight train. Fortunately I sat down right away and instead of falling from a standing position down the stairs I was sitting when I blacked out. I’m lucky I did’t break my neck. Gave myself severe whiplash and a separated shoulder. 

I am glad I have the monitor on and will be able to rule out my heart (while tripping) as a cause. My hunch is the fluid build up and ear pressure that often happens on larger doses triggers the vertigo which can cause blackouts.

What you explained also makes a ton of sense too. I can’t smoke weed anymore because I always feel like I’m going to pass out. I miss Mexican dirt weed!

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GenesisCorrupted said:

I confess this guy I was talking to got my head all messed up and now I’m honestly thinking about the logistics of having a small beehive.

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ThurmanMurman said:

BeefSupremeJr said:

its not to get it to absorb its to keep humidity up

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So wait...you're adding enough water to float the sub and essentially creating a mono/water tub hybrid?

Ive noticed the water turns a little yellow if I bottom water and happen to forget about it for a period of time. I wasn't sure if that was metabolites or "grain water", but didn't figure it was good either way. Nothing to worry about?

If the sub could be floated indefinitely, myc would still absorb water as needed as it flushed yeah? This is kinda sounding like a two pronged strategy here, no?

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BeefSupremeJr said:

I can confess to completely unconventional shit I do all the time here ahahahah.

second flush, if I don't need the tub right away, I'll give a shrunken sub a fighting chance by just letting it float in water.  hahahah.  beefs ez dialed and punished water shoeboxes.

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KauaiOrca said:

BeefSupremeJr said:

I can confess to completely unconventional shit I do all the time here ahahahah.

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Had an idea this week to do something different. I have taken very clean spore "prints" this way and had pretty much 100% success. I call it my Spore-a-lator. Basically I put 20ml of water in the bottom of this and then PC it for 20 minutes.



The top half (a smaller jar that fits snugly into the bottom one) is where I put the cap because that way the cap never touches the "print water" below as the spores just fall into the sterile water and then I use the SHIP to suck them out and I have a really clean spore syringe that is packed to the gills with spores and ready to use immediately or store for later.



So what I decided to try for the hell of it, is instead of putting water in the bottom I'd usually suck into a sterile syringe, instead I put about a half inch of RGS and then PC'd it to find out if the spore drop was clean enough to colonize and pin for clones in one easy step or would it all contaminate??? Keeping in mind, the cap never physically touches the bottom jar with the RGS. After about 12 hours of spore dropping, I just pull off the top jar that has the cap in it and twist the top of the jar with the RGS down tight and see what happens.

So when I woke up this morning this is what it looks like. I did the spore drop on the 13th so it's been 5 days and the growth is right where the spores dropped. Mycelium, at least today, is beating the contams if there are any in there.



Any bets on whether it contaminates or puts up pins?

I've literally made dozens of spore syringes like this and nearly all of them grew out very clean pucks that were use for G2G transfers to jars that grew out clean enough to fruit really well.

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LewDoja said:

It may work, but the consensus is it's best to let prints dry for a few days, before using. Mainly due to bacteria on the cap.

Also second printings are considerably more clean (more faint as well)

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but I do know it's colonizing much faster than any spore to grain inoculation I've ever done.

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LewDoja said:

BeefSupremeJr said:

I can confess to completely unconventional shit I do all the time here ahahahah.

second flush, if I don't need the tub right away, I'll give a shrunken sub a fighting chance by just letting it float in water.  hahahah.  beefs ez dialed and punished water shoeboxes.

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💯  the true water tub tek "floating lotus".

I've done this with semps too.

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LewDoja said:

KauaiOrca said:

BeefSupremeJr said:

I can confess to completely unconventional shit I do all the time here ahahahah.

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Had an idea this week to do something different. I have taken very clean spore "prints" this way and had pretty much 100% success. I call it my Spore-a-lator. Basically I put 20ml of water in the bottom of this and then PC it for 20 minutes.



The top half (a smaller jar that fits snugly into the bottom one) is where I put the cap because that way the cap never touches the "print water" below as the spores just fall into the sterile water and then I use the SHIP to suck them out and I have a really clean spore syringe that is packed to the gills with spores and ready to use immediately or store for later.



So what I decided to try for the hell of it, is instead of putting water in the bottom I'd usually suck into a sterile syringe, instead I put about a half inch of RGS and then PC'd it to find out if the spore drop was clean enough to colonize and pin for clones in one easy step or would it all contaminate??? Keeping in mind, the cap never physically touches the bottom jar with the RGS. After about 12 hours of spore dropping, I just pull off the top jar that has the cap in it and twist the top of the jar with the RGS down tight and see what happens.

So when I woke up this morning this is what it looks like. I did the spore drop on the 13th so it's been 5 days and the growth is right where the spores dropped. Mycelium, at least today, is beating the contams if there are any in there.



Any bets on whether it contaminates or puts up pins?

I've literally made dozens of spore syringes like this and nearly all of them grew out very clean pucks that were use for G2G transfers to jars that grew out clean enough to fruit really well.

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It may work, but the consensus is it's best to let prints dry for a few days, before using. Mainly due to bacteria on the cap.

Also second printings are considerably more clean (more faint as well)



I second the bee hive yearning

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BeefSupremeJr said:

my dude, i wouldn't bet against you.  This is fucking brilliant and belongs in its own thread outside of the confession booth. Youre a TC now Lew, curb the shame and be yourself.

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LewDoja said:

Printing straight to water has been around for ever a long time.

Not sure about the use of RGS instead of water. I do understand the benefits of this and agree it's a plausible method...

But here's my question, if it was such a great advantage why is it not the norm?

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