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Cultivate

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Workman
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Re: Outdoor Psilocybe baeocystis Cultivation [Re: Cultivate]
#8242034 - 04/05/08 10:49 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've done it a few times but I must say this is the most difficult of Psilocybes I have ever grown. Curiously, it doesn't colonize fresh wood very well. This seems to indicate that it is more of a secondary decomposer of wood that has already been partially broken down by other organisms. On sterile substrates the mycelium is thin and slow growing.
My best luck was with sterilized horse manure in jars that took several months to fully colonize. Soon after the fully colonized manure was placed outdoors, the mycelium in contact with the surrounding soil thickened up into nice rhizomorphs that then started to fruit. This is evidence that soil organisms are also needed for fruiting. Unfortunately, the colonized manure often became moldy, even outside, probably due to the weak colonization on the less than ideal substrate.
So, more work needs to be done, but it is possible. I'd recommend working with a more aggressive true woodlover for a first outdoor bed.
This image is of my most successful attempt. I mulched the bed with a little straw to retain humidity. The mushrooms looked a little strange but I think it is because of the over-nutritious substrate. Later flushes looked more normal.
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Cultivate

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Workman
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Re: Outdoor Psilocybe baeocystis Cultivation [Re: Cultivate]
#8245209 - 04/06/08 01:08 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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As far as I know, all of the bluefoots in distribution are actually Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata which was misidentified as Psilocybe caerulipes. Some sources continue to use the wrong name.
But P. ovoideocystidia is a good aggressive species to try as are Psilocybe azurescens and P. cyanescens..
It would be my guess that authentic P. caerulipes would be a harder species to grow since it is in the Semilanceatae Section. Let me know if you find any real ones.
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Workman
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Re: Outdoor Psilocybe baeocystis Cultivation [Re: Cultivate]
#8246499 - 04/06/08 12:49 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ahhh, the FMRC might be the only place that has the real thing, but they are notorious for having unviable spores. Some have been stored a very long time.
I'd say the ovoideocystidiata is probably your best bet. Maybe you can get some of the baeocystis-like spores recently collected in Maine by warriorsoul. Its probably just as hard to grow as PNW baeocystis but it is a local species.
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HerbBaker



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Re: Outdoor Psilocybe baeocystis Cultivation [Re: Workman]
#8268388 - 04/11/08 07:19 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd be happy to help, just shoot me a pm.
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b3jamboree
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Re: Outdoor Psilocybe baeocystis Cultivation [Re: HerbBaker]
#8276825 - 04/13/08 07:41 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've been working with worriorsouls spores most of the winter and just having a bitch of a time. Granted I'm fairly new to cultivation, I have had success with pans, cubies, oysters and a number of other gormets.
I would appreciate any advice or guidance with these things. So far I have had limited success starting them on agar. I isolated them from the initial plate that had the gill samples on them which, naturally, contaminated. The next plate seemed to be growing as baeos are supposed to; slowly and very thin mycelium. Then the plate seemed to stall, no growth for weeks. So I cut wedges from it and transfered them to PF style jars and birdseed jars, to see which one would be better.
The jars spread very quickly, too quickly, which led me to believe it was cobweb or some other contam rather than actuall baeo myc. I chalked it up as a failure but just for shits(pun intended) I dumped the jars out into a bag of deer scat I had collected for the garden. A week or so went by and I forgot about them until I was inspired to dump the manure bag onto the compost pile and noticed the cakes were spreading to the manure nicely. Of course who is to say it wasn't just cobweb or other contam spreading, not actual baeo myc?
So now I'm back at square one, going to innoc a plate with another piece of gill. I was wondering if I could use the cardboard/agar tek or will baeos not colonize the cardboard since they are secondary decomposers?
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HerbBaker



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Re: Outdoor Psilocybe baeocystis Cultivation [Re: b3jamboree]
#8281018 - 04/14/08 06:12 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I haven't had any luck with the cardboard.
Psilocybe baeocystis is a woodlover thats acts more like a secondary decomposer..It can be found on wood and in fields. It prefers wood that is well aged and broken down, it does not like fresh wood. P. baeocystis prefers conifers like Fir and Hemlock.
Heres a link to Workman's baeocystis cultivation. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/393443#393443
Good luck!
Edited by HerbBaker (04/14/08 11:47 AM)
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