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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: haniblecter]
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2 QQ, one of which is surely stupid.

1. After simmering grain, why let it cool naturally instead of using cold water to cool it quickly? Would that not save time and lock in moisture that would otherwise be lost as steam?

Stupidity incoming!

2. Has anyone ever rehydrated after harvest with grain water? I assume this is top tier, pants on head retarded, but I'm harvesting a small 3rd flush today, and I'm fuckin goin for it!🤣

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: haniblecter] * 1
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haniblecter said:
majesticfungi said:
How stupid is it to send fruits via mail? I wanna send my friend some but I have obvious concerns. Does USPS UPS FEDEX x ray? Would I get into legal trouble or would they just dispose of the package?



I'd use a non USPS carrier. I think all bulk carriers are subject to the same laws (USPS, UPS, Fedex) some might just care more than others.

Xray screening? I doubt it. I imagine a bubble envelope is better than a box.





Usps requires a warrant to search mail and packages, other carriers do not.



Be smart, wear gloves when you pack, use drop address, don't ship from your local post office. Be smart.

Edited by mishro (10/26/24 03:19 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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ThurmanMurman said:
2 QQ, one of which is surely stupid.

1. After simmering grain, why let it cool naturally instead of using cold water to cool it quickly? Would that not save time and lock in moisture that would otherwise be lost as steam?

Stupidity incoming!

2. Has anyone ever rehydrated after harvest with grain water? I assume this is top tier, pants on head retarded, but I'm harvesting a small 3rd flush today, and I'm fuckin goin for it!🤣

Disclaimer for noobs: Unless you see me running, dont ever follow me.



As to question 1, If you rinse it in cold water it will take forever for the outside of the grains to dry again. The grains being hot helps the outside moisture to evaporate faster.

I never re-hydrate at all. It's never been needed unless I go to a 3rd flush which I never do. Faster to spawn another jar ang get big first flush that waiting on a tiny 3rd.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 2
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I believe the evaporation off the hot grain helps remove excess moisture so you don't have wet exterior.

<was a little slow in the finger>


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Edited by polyflakes (10/26/24 03:17 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RockinRobot]
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RockinRobot said:
ThurmanMurman said:
2 QQ, one of which is surely stupid.

1. After simmering grain, why let it cool naturally instead of using cold water to cool it quickly? Would that not save time and lock in moisture that would otherwise be lost as steam?

Stupidity incoming!

2. Has anyone ever rehydrated after harvest with grain water? I assume this is top tier, pants on head retarded, but I'm harvesting a small 3rd flush today, and I'm fuckin goin for it!🤣

Disclaimer for noobs: Unless you see me running, dont ever follow me.



As to question 1, If you rinse it in cold water it will take forever for the outside of the grains to dry again. The grains being hot helps the outside moisture to evaporate faster.

I never re-hydrate at all. It's never been needed unless I go to a 3rd flush which I never do. Faster to spawn another jar ang get big first flush that waiting on a tiny 3rd.



Regarding question 1 - Makes sense to me, and thank you.

Spawning is def more bang for the buck, but all 3 of my colonized spawn jars were apparently funky bc they didnt recover properly after a prespawn test shake so I've got at least a week until I have more spawn anyway. Honestly though, this 3rd nat flush might actually be worth the effort.

Here's the 2nd flush I'm about to harvest. I asked about grain water bc I was wondering if there was any potential for supplementing nutrients via the grain water. Im sure it's a non starter or I'd have heard about it, but I think I already mentioned I do stupid shit for funsies...pretty sure I did, somewhere.


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Edited by ThurmanMurman (10/26/24 03:35 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EniQma]
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EniQma said:
aShogunNamedMarcus said:
Smellyhobbit said:
aShogunNamedMarcus said:
How many shoeboxes do you guys get from one coco brick 7L (eco earth size).

I'm using Walmart 6 qt shoeboxes.

My first round, I used 2 bricks for 6 boxes. It was too much.

Second round, I used one brick, stretched out to 6 shoeboxes. It's kind of thin but is doing great.

I may just do 5 6qt shoeboxes off one brick next time.



I usually get 3. I do a 1:3 spawn:coir ratio plus top layer. So it winds up being about 4Q of coir per shoebox.

So also it depends on your ratio






This is what I ended up with this round, s2b yesterday. I think I'll have a decent harvest but I'm trying to dial it in.

How deep is your final substrate in your shoebox?



If that was a full brick spawned 1:3 it looks like you didn’t compress at all





I used this to compress the substrate both before and after I added the pseudo casing.

There's also 3L of vermiculite added to help fill out the tubs

Edited by aShogunNamedMarcus (10/26/24 04:04 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wall.E]
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Wall.E said:
To expose any hidden contamination. If you think it’s good to go but you have uncolonized grain in the middle, you could potentially introduce contamination with a tool. I always shake when I think it’s 100% colonized and let it rebound before spawning. And when I spawn I just dump it and mix it with my hands.




:whathesaid:

I follow this exact same practice. It really gives you a piece of Mind before you spawn. To see your mycelium recover quickly and whether or not it reveals anything bad.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: aShogunNamedMarcus]
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Is it a dumb idea to wash my grain jars in the dishwasher along with normal dishes? Or should I run only the jars?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: aShogunNamedMarcus] * 2
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I used this to compress the substrate both before and after I added the pseudo casing.

There's also 3L of vermiculite added to help fill out the tubs





I had one of those. It works. But I didn't like it so much after finding this instead



It's stainless steel and super easy to clean. That's also heavy. Covers a lot of surface area. It fits perfectly in shoe boxes. And the corners are perfectly rounded to fit the corners of the shoe boxes as well.

They also have one with the stainless handle.I should have got that one instead of wood but oh well.

I put my shoe boxes on the floor and then use all of my body weight to press down as hard as possible. You can't press too hard.. you'll get perfect compression and nice leveling. as well as minimal to no side pins.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
Wall.E said:
To expose any hidden contamination. If you think it’s good to go but you have uncolonized grain in the middle, you could potentially introduce contamination with a tool. I always shake when I think it’s 100% colonized and let it rebound before spawning. And when I spawn I just dump it and mix it with my hands.




:whathesaid:

I follow this exact same practice. It really gives you a piece of Mind before you spawn. To see your mycelium recover quickly and whether or not it reveals anything bad.



Yes. I have now adopted the second shake at 95-100% colonization.

It revealed bacteria in one of my winecap jars. First shake recovered fine. Second shake didn't recover at all.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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So the paint mixer at Home Depot is basically just this press with this rubber flat plate that gets pushed down on top of whatever you put into it and then it just shakes the absolute shit out of it.

Is there a very small version of this available somewhere on the market that isn’t insanely expensive? Because I would love to just have these jars obliterated in seconds.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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do you pseudocase semperviva at spawn, and then case at colonization or no and just case at colonization?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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ThurmanMurman said:
2 QQ, one of which is surely stupid.

1. After simmering grain, why let it cool naturally instead of using cold water to cool it quickly? Would that not save time and lock in moisture that would otherwise be lost as steam?




I actually do it this way. I take it off the stove and rinse will cold water until it runs clear and is cool. My thinking with this is it slows down the absorption of water and rinses off the loose starches. Then I dump it out on a towel for a few minutes before packing in jars.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload] * 1
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Mackload said:
do you pseudocase semperviva at spawn, and then case at colonization or no and just case at colonization?



You could go either way.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Amethyst_Scepter] * 2
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Amethyst_Scepter said:
Is it a dumb idea to wash my grain jars in the dishwasher along with normal dishes? Or should I run only the jars?



It's not necessary to put them in there.... some ppl dont even wash. Just load and pc.

I just use a sponge on a stick (for drinking glasses).


To answer no, it's not stupid. Either way or neither.

This is your adventure, choose whichever makes you happier.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mishro] * 2
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Quick reminder to everyone that shipping drugs is a crime and we do not discuss how to commit crimes here.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mishro]
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Forgive me for being ignorant, what is a drop address. Also, I heard that some law was passed that bypassed a warrant necessary to search packages

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: majesticfungi]
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Like a postage box. A dropbox.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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I've had issues with contaminated grains and one of the culprits someone pointed to may have been underhydrated grains.

How these look? Last batch I burst a lot more grains, but I was told it shouldn't be an issue with colonization... I've also been told that overhydrated grains ARE an issue with colonization... which is it? lol

For this batch of rye:
Rinsed rye berries in 4 changes of water (till water ran clear)
Filled pot with hot tap water to cover rye by 3-4"
Soaked 6 hours
Turned heat on low and slowly brought it up to 185f over the course of 2 hours. I this point I noticed burst berries (I guess I should have checked on it sooner) and pulled it from the heat and strained.

Also, what's up with all these teks saying wheat/rye should be "dry" in 30 minutes... an hour... I'm two hours later and its still a lil moist. I've been moving it around a bit and it's in a huge colander that can breath..

Ok I guess that was multiple quick questions.

A lot less burst grains than last time, but still thought it would be less since I went slow and low.
I tried some of the grains and they're yummy, made a lil snack and they're all nice and soft.


Edited by StalkOfFomentarius (10/26/24 07:09 PM)

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