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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fezzgig]
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Pseudo casing is non nutritive like coir or verm to cover exposed grain


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fezzgig]
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A real casing layer is nutritious, and usually includes manure.  It's added on after the main substrate is fully colonized.  It's not something you have to do for cubes.

A psuedo-casing is just an extra layer of coir packed on top of the sub/grain mix.  That's normally done right away.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314] * 2
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Kinoko314 said:
A real casing layer is nutritious, and usually includes manure.  It's added on after the main substrate is fully colonized.  It's not something you have to do for cubes.

A psuedo-casing is just an extra layer of coir packed on top of the sub/grain mix.  That's normally done right away.




Not sure where you saw manure used in casing. Most casing used today is either Peat/verm/Lime , cactus soil or plain verm.

The true casing layer is usually Ph adjusted to make it harder for any contams to flourish.

True casing is only needed for some mushrooms mostly exotics like Semps and Pans. Cubes have no need for a true casing layer

Edited by RockinRobot (09/12/24 01:42 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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Kinoko314 said:
thirdeyewild said:
Also casing is usually applied after the bulk substrate colonizes.



I'm sure he meant a psuedo-casing.

Amethyst_Scepter said:
Does this monotub have too much surface moisture? What can I do to remedy it?
APE starry night
Day 4 of fruiting conditions
S2B 8/26
CVG sub

Thanks in advance!



It's a little bit on the wet side.  Try increasing fae just a little.  Maybe flip that lid.



Thank you!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RockinRobot]
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RockinRobot said:
Kinoko314 said:
A real casing layer is nutritious, and usually includes manure.  It's added on after the main substrate is fully colonized.  It's not something you have to do for cubes.

A psuedo-casing is just an extra layer of coir packed on top of the sub/grain mix.  That's normally done right away.




Not sure where you saw manure used in casing. Most casing used today is either Peat/verm/Lime , cactus soil or plain verm.

The true casing layer is usually Ph adjusted to make it harder for any contams to flourish.

True casing is only needed for some mushrooms mostly exotics like Semps and Pans. Cubes have no need for a true casing layer



I've really only grown cubes/nats, so I'm not speaking from experience on true casings.  Before I took a break I was going to start some pans, and manure was definitely suggested for that, but I'm fuzzy on the details.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Amethyst_Scepter]
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Hi all,

Some time lurker first time grower here. Wondered if some more experienced eyes could take a look at my spawn.

All the best.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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DERRAYLD said:
Tiger drop is not user friendly, you're better of taking small slices from the agar and transferring.



I felt like some tweezers would’ve helped speed things up in the moment.. I basically ended up having to scoop the chunks out with my scalpel.

Kinoko314 said:
They look a touch bacterial, but it looks like a good time for a shake, anyway.  Watch how it recovers over the next few days before deciding how bad it is.



I’ll try the break and shake tonight when I’m off work, I was avoiding it because I kinda assumed these would be bacterial based on my history with grains :tongue:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: NotWimbo] * 2
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Use a scalpel and cut triangles, pick the triangle up with the scalpel like a spoon.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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damn I overcomplicated the fuck out of that 🤦

Thank you for your time and patience DERRAYLD, English isn’t my first language so I feel like I misunderstand things on here sometimes

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: NotWimbo] * 1
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NotWimbo said:
damn I overcomplicated the fuck out of that 🤦

Thank you for your time and patience DERRAYLD, English isn’t my first language so I feel like I misunderstand things on here sometimes



I just wanna chime in and suggest experimenting with a spare plate to see what works and what doesn't. Once you've done a few trial runs with nothing on the line, you'll feel way more confident once you're working with the real thing.

Good luck and have fun! :smile:

Edited by monorail64 (09/12/24 03:48 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: monorail64]
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Cheapest lights you've found around 15" in length!!??

Does it get better than this?

VARMHUS Submersible LED Aquarium Light,Fish Tank Light with Timer Auto On/Off Dimming Function,3 Light Modes Dimmable White-Blue,10 Brightness Levels Optional&3 Levels of timed Loop Function 15'' https://a.co/d/1BHVh5A

Any help appreciated. Thanks!
I need like 24 of them 🤣
Doesn't HAVE to have a timer

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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The Bridgelux eb gen 2’s are pretty cheap, if you’re willing to DIY.  About 11 inches.

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bridgelux/BXEB-L0280Z-50E1000-C-B3/7907666


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: yoosername]
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Yeah they are holy shit. Not sure if I want to dive into something like that or not 🤔 wonder if it's still that course effective after wiring and a housing

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: NotWimbo]
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DERRAYLD said:
Use a scalpel and cut triangles, pick the triangle up with the scalpel like a spoon.



NotWimbo said:
damn I overcomplicated the fuck out of that 🤦

Thank you for your time and patience DERRAYLD, English isn’t my first language so I feel like I misunderstand things on here sometimes




Ive been doing agar for 2 months, and overall, have probably cut and moved 50+ wedges. It never occurred to me to get the wedge on the scalpel like a shovel - I've been stabbing it and then wrestling it to get it off. So dont feel too bad. Guess I'll be doing it differently now.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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I’ve got shaky hands so the spoon method is a no go for me. Countless dropped wedges.

Instead I stab it on one of the cut edges (with just the tip :wink:) and move the piece to the receiving plate or jar.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nimpo]
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Nimpo said:
I’ve got shaky hands so the spoon method is a no go for me. Countless dropped wedges.

Instead I stab it on one of the cut edges (with just the tip :wink:) and move the piece to the receiving plate or jar.



My hand isn't very steady either. We'll see if I end up just going back to the forking instead of spooning.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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I have a curved hook I got in a pimple popper set and it works great for cutting and skewering

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RockinRobot]
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RockinRobot said:
shadowpeople said:
If I heated this up with a torch, would it work to melt holes for a shotgun fruiting chamber? I'm afraid I will crack it if I drill it. I tried doing that once already. https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-6-mm-4-Inch-Screwdriver-DHX21060/dp/B07GDRZ37T/ref=sr_1_4?adgrpid=1330409642931296&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.YwgG9u-fBNFGZRewPJhZe6tGHH7KttgjCYYw6aCPFJ-NZjiCUyTKaUzUYM_WJuMWXSBWH-U_sfut_43CQ5tD-4Tudca1vOFbqLEqvgIY0u8_jRURM9holF6IAZPcpEGHO_5_iYnRak5d3P9_bT1ycZ-GvJ2rtqr4ywwKEiRqj2Eh9HfGKWn2iRXwLRY-6c1hNjajN-vvdNJCoW6MtuT-C2TMFFKAmHt9ZlxT2tom3bCwoeTKIDspIvTCrQksgZDzPfGPs1JczLNbbA7pIVH4p1-Macy1shrJrIIeQiYKifk.LT6dIQcdyZd0IEEwMczZlYPK4BaDBOxoBAoDDniORBY&dib_tag=se&hvadid=83150841297006&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=87983&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83150968294119%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=29008_14559858&keywords=6mm%2Bscrewdriver&msclkid=88c90d083cbb16eb1cc66beac89c1180&qid=1726149731&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&sr=8-4&th=1



Don't ruin a tote with all those holes. Build a water tub. Works better anyway.

SGFC is OUTDATED TEK



Yeah I love my water tub. It was my first grow and I think it's perfect for beginners

Here's a very detailed journey i had from pf tek to watertub to fruiting. Read the pages I ask alot of "dumb questions" and they're all answered https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28850157

You could use the same tub. Still need verm and brf for the pf tek and casing after birthing so I don't think you'd have too much trouble switching over if you want this to be easier starting out


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fiet]
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Why my LC is Cloudy and the Jar have some strange stuff on it maybe from the Malt? Can i still using them?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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When do I need to start worrying about the surface conditions in my 6 QT shoe boxes? Is this something I don't need to pay attention to until the sub has fully colonized? Like don't even take the lid off or mess with it at all until the sub is fully colonized then after that I can start paying more attention to the surface conditions?

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