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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PBJ710]
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I don't see any liquid in person. Bottoms look dry, just not fully colonized yet. Might be bubble effects from patterns on the glass and lighting being weird.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LikeMyc]
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LikeMyc said:
Mr Piggy said:
Wishery said:
6 weeks in, very little change in 2.5 weeks, is it ready to spawn? I've been waiting for more of a wall of white.




Itโ€™s bacterial, spawn accordingly.


Some mycelial exudate at the bottom but looks clean so far. Theres no change because its been done. :lol:


I was under the impression that some metabolites is okay and doesn't 100% mean bacterial? I didn't yet find any info on how to spawn to bulk differently if there's metabolites.

I was searching for "when is jar ready" type things and some were suggesting it was only done when it was all white. If I spawned 2 weeks ago the metabolites wouldn't have formed.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PBJ710] * 3
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PBJ710 said:
:whateveryousayfreak:

Pretty obvious bacteria presence in those jars...


Yummy nummy ice cream spawn


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SirPsycho]
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Anyone have a link to an ice cream tek? Maybe we can make the shrooms not taste like ass.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Professor Chaos]
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Professor Chaos said:
Anyone have a link to an ice cream tek? Maybe we can make the shrooms not taste like ass.


Shrooms taste fine. Leather up, fruitcake


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SirPsycho]
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SirPsycho said:
Professor Chaos said:
Anyone have a link to an ice cream tek? Maybe we can make the shrooms not taste like ass.


Shrooms taste fine. Leather up, fruitcake


I actually don't hate them. Not my favorite but not gag worthy. My friends are the ones that usually do all the bitching.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SirPsycho] * 1
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When you try to break the jar up to pour it out, I bet you'll have to beat the shit out of it to get it broken up.  Healthy spawn should completely seperate into individual grain with just a couple light to moderate strikes on the side of the jar.

Metabolites are roughly the equivalent of puss in an infection for humans.  It's a result of the immune system in mycelium fighting against a competitor organism.  It's not a death sentence, but it does effect the overall health and vigor of the culture as found with the really long colonization time for a single myco quart of grain.  Healthy, axenic mycelium will completely chew up a quart of grain in a couple weeks.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PBJ710]
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PBJ710 said:
When you try to break the jar up to pour it out, I bet you'll have to beat the shit out of it to get it broken up.  Healthy spawn should completely seperate into individual grain with just a couple light to moderate strikes on the side of the jar.

Metabolites are roughly the equivalent of puss in an infection for humans.  It's a result of the immune system in mycelium fighting against a competitor organism.  It's not a death sentence, but it does effect the overall health and vigor of the culture as found with the really long colonization time for a single myco quart of grain.  Healthy, axenic mycelium will completely chew up a quart of grain in a couple weeks.



Thanks. If it ends up being a bitch to break apart could I just spoon it out?

Edited by Professor Chaos (06/24/24 06:10 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Professor Chaos]
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Ready to send or a little bit more? Growth absolutely exploded esp after B+S, but don't know if I should wait for even further growth.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Professor Chaos]
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Yeah, thats perfectly acceptible.  The tougher it is to get out, the less overall substrate you should use with it.  If you try to go 1:4 with a baseball of rock hard mycelium it probably won't colonize fast enough to beat out contams.  1:1 or 1:2 at most would be a better ratio in those cases.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PBJ710]
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PBJ710 said:
Yeah, thats perfectly acceptible.  The tougher it is to get out, the less overall substrate you should use with it.  If you try to go 1:4 with a baseball of rock hard mycelium it probably won't colonize fast enough to beat out contams.  1:1 or 1:2 at most would be a better ratio in those cases.


Ok thanks.

What are the downsides to using a 1:1 or 1:2 ratio? I see some things saying 1:3 and 1:4 are more ideal. Just more moisture for the myc to suck up?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Professor Chaos] * 2
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Professor Chaos said:
PBJ710 said:
Yeah, thats perfectly acceptible.  The tougher it is to get out, the less overall substrate you should use with it.  If you try to go 1:4 with a baseball of rock hard mycelium it probably won't colonize fast enough to beat out contams.  1:1 or 1:2 at most would be a better ratio in those cases.


Ok thanks.

What are the downsides to using a 1:1 or 1:2 ratio? I see some things saying 1:3 and 1:4 are more ideal. Just more moisture for the myc to suck up?


SirPsycho said:
Avery's Albino cubensis, same culture, same amount of spawn, different amounts of sub. 4:1,3:1,2:1





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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Professor Chaos]
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Professor Chaos said:
PBJ710 said:
Yeah, thats perfectly acceptible.  The tougher it is to get out, the less overall substrate you should use with it.  If you try to go 1:4 with a baseball of rock hard mycelium it probably won't colonize fast enough to beat out contams.  1:1 or 1:2 at most would be a better ratio in those cases.


Ok thanks.

What are the downsides to using a 1:1 or 1:2 ratio? I see some things saying 1:3 and 1:4 are more ideal. Just more moisture for the myc to suck up?


Downside โ€” using more spawn ratio-wise which in this case means smaller bulk. Higher ratios means longer colonization time hence the recommendations to go conservative. Higher ratios are for when you have clean spawn

Prof, there looks like some confusion here. Your jar looks pretty. Itโ€™s the 6-week jar that looks like a challenge

Edited by AzureCultivator (06/24/24 06:51 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wishery]
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Wishery said:
LikeMyc said:
Mr Piggy said:
Wishery said:
6 weeks in, very little change in 2.5 weeks, is it ready to spawn? I've been waiting for more of a wall of white.




Itโ€™s bacterial, spawn accordingly.


Some mycelial exudate at the bottom but looks clean so far. Theres no change because its been done. :lol:


I was under the impression that some metabolites is okay and doesn't 100% mean bacterial? I didn't yet find any info on how to spawn to bulk differently if there's metabolites.

I was searching for "when is jar ready" type things and some were suggesting it was only done when it was all white. If I spawned 2 weeks ago the metabolites wouldn't have formed.



Fully colonized doesn't mean a flawless coat of white. Mycelium may not cling to every single little thing in the jar when you have a mixture of different "grains".  Dont worry about metabolites.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AzureCultivator]
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AzureCultivator said:
Professor Chaos said:
PBJ710 said:
Yeah, thats perfectly acceptible.  The tougher it is to get out, the less overall substrate you should use with it.  If you try to go 1:4 with a baseball of rock hard mycelium it probably won't colonize fast enough to beat out contams.  1:1 or 1:2 at most would be a better ratio in those cases.


Ok thanks.

What are the downsides to using a 1:1 or 1:2 ratio? I see some things saying 1:3 and 1:4 are more ideal. Just more moisture for the myc to suck up?


Downside โ€” using more spawn ratio-wise which in this case means smaller bulk. Higher ratios means longer colonization time hence the recommendations to go conservative. Higher ratios are for when you have clean spawn
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Prof, there looks like some confusion here. Your jar looks pretty. Itโ€™s the 6-week jar that looks like a challenge


Ok lol, that's the downside of posting a jar right when someone else does I guess.

So do you think I should do 1:3 or 1:4 like I was originally thinking or go with the 1:2 to be safe?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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Is it time to harvest these crazy looking guys?



This is my first grow - I isolated from a "koh samui super strain" syringe that I'm now seeing other people have had somewhat similar looking fruits from.
Since these are unusual looking, I'm not sure whether it's time to harvest the ones in the bottom of the picture
Also not sure if the cracking in the tops is a sign of low moisture.

The shortness and overall weirdness of the fruits I think might be due to high temp and low humidity in the past week (though I've since improved conditions and they responded well)

Edited by Fermi (06/24/24 09:20 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Professor Chaos]
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Professor Chaos said:
AzureCultivator said:
Professor Chaos said:
PBJ710 said:
Yeah, thats perfectly acceptible.  The tougher it is to get out, the less overall substrate you should use with it.  If you try to go 1:4 with a baseball of rock hard mycelium it probably won't colonize fast enough to beat out contams.  1:1 or 1:2 at most would be a better ratio in those cases.


Ok thanks.

What are the downsides to using a 1:1 or 1:2 ratio? I see some things saying 1:3 and 1:4 are more ideal. Just more moisture for the myc to suck up?


Downside โ€” using more spawn ratio-wise which in this case means smaller bulk. Higher ratios means longer colonization time hence the recommendations to go conservative. Higher ratios are for when you have clean spawn
Q
Prof, there looks like some confusion here. Your jar looks pretty. Itโ€™s the 6-week jar that looks like a challenge


Ok lol, that's the downside of posting a jar right when someone else does I guess.

So do you think I should do 1:3 or 1:4 like I was originally thinking or go with the 1:2 to be safe?


Yep, 1:3 or 1:4 sounds great. Your spawn looks clean. If you have any concerns, reduce the risk (lower the ratio) until you feel comfortable. Itโ€™s a risk/reward game and you get to play it every time you make a tub


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Drink the Water of Life and become Paul Muadโ€™Dib.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AzureCultivator]
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Ok thanks. I have three jars that look like that, maybe I'll try 1:2, 1:3 and 1:4 just to see what happens.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Professor Chaos]
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what would you do next?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Professor Chaos] * 1
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Professor Chaos said:
Ok thanks. I have three jars that look like that, maybe I'll try 1:2, 1:3 and 1:4 just to see what happens.


Excellent!


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