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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 999999999]
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How much microdosing will create tolerance, and how long does a reset take?

How do I know if my gummies are weak or if it’s tolerance? I made some from freshly dried semperviva and they are maybe half as strong as I expected.

Is there a difference in measuring dosing between wet and dry other than weight? I dried to crumbly cracker dry and did the math, which admittedly might have been wrong. But I weighed wet and dry and made the tea according to this:
Dry weight formula: z wet grams × 0.1061 ≈ y dry grams
So I aimed for a microdose of about 0.3 wet grams per gummy, I did this: Dry weight=38 wet grams×0.1061≈4.0318 dry grams

However, I took 8 gummies yesterday and it felt like maybe 0.9 wet grams instead of 2.4.

I crumbled the dry fruits with my fingers and then ground them up further in a mortar and pestle for the tea, and I did a double extraction where I made more tea from the drained and squeezed fruits after simmering first for about 40 minutes, then combined the teas and reduced them together… but I didn’t blitz the mushrooms with an immersion blender in the tea. Should I have?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus]
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Did you try the fruit to confirm its not due to lowwr potency fruit?

I'd say it's possibly a semp issue but I can't confirm.
My experiments with myceliated semp grain were sub par when turned into gummies but when I consume the grain it's still potent.

I have no idea why, but it's my observation confirmed by many people who tried the gummies.

I used 200g of myceliated grain for around 70 gummies so I expected substantially more potency.
In general I have to eat around 10 to get basic effects whereas the grain itself is just fine consuming 2g for a similar 0.8g fruit experience,  give or take.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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DERRAYLD said:
Did you try the fruit to confirm its not due to lowwr potency fruit?

I'd say it's possibly a semp issue but I can't confirm.
My experiments with myceliated semp grain were sub par when turned into gummies but when I consume the grain it's still potent.

I have no idea why, but it's my observation confirmed by many people who tried the gummies.

I used 200g of myceliated grain for around 70 gummies so I expected substantially more potency.
In general I have to eat around 10 to get basic effects whereas the grain itself is just fine consuming 2g for a similar 0.8g fruit experience,  give or take.


I’ve just eaten the wet semperviva fruits so far, which were potent. I haven’t taken more than 1.5-1.6 wet grams which for me is a medium light dose with faint oev, which I use for my therapy sessions. I ate 5 gummies before my session yesterday, then topped up with 3 more after about 35 minutes and I didn’t notice the normal effects. This is not myceliated grain. I dried my harvests last week and then made the gummies. The dried fruits are in glass jars with desiccant packs and are crumbly dry. I can try some of the fruits on their own, but they are so strong that I don’t want to accidentally overdo it and the dry weights are so slight… which is why I wanted to make gummies for safer dosing. I guess I need to try the dry fruits to see if they are the problem. If not then I guess something went wrong with either my math or my tea making process.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus]
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Yeh it's a confusing situation,  I only mentioned the myceliated grain due to the semps but I doubt there's a correlation necessarily.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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Do you think I should have blitzed them with an immersion blender? The tek said it wasn’t necessary for fruits, and I did double extract, but maybe I should have blended. I have been microdosing, but I haven’t had this level of tolerance before with fresh fruits. I guess the best idea is to try the dry fruits themselves and see.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus]
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I don't think the immersion blender really had any value other than just mixing everything in a homogenous mixture.

How often are you dosing?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 999999999]
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Gleyck said:
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you good

Shake that corn and leave them tubs alone :tongue2:
(as a rule of thumb you should litfa the first 10 days)
Seems from here that you didn't use a pseudo-casing top layer of coir, right?


Thanks.

No casing layer. Just mixed up really good and that's all.

Gonna shake the jars when I get home.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Professor Chaos]
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Are these ape? I got it in a trade but i really dont think theyre ape. Ime with ape the caps turn blue. Theyre also shaped differently. Assuming it is some PE variety? Spawned on 5-21. Kind of fast for a PE



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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Possibly LAPE


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Goatrider]
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It was labeled ape g2 now that i think about it


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Does condensation ALWAYS = contamination of some sort?
All of these have condensation :frown:
They smell fine but...
Toss 'em???
All are at different timelines of G2G...


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Threads2theSoul]
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could be u ran ur pc to hard :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Threads2theSoul] * 2
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Threads2theSoul said:
Does condensation ALWAYS = contamination of some sort?
All of these have condensation :frown:
They smell fine but...
Toss 'em???
All are at different timelines of G2G...




No, condensation doesn’t always mean contamination. But in the absence of apparent reasons *for* said condensation, contamination is usually the answer. Many of us see condensation in the winter, as an example. During that season you can say “yep, temp swings” and move on. But if I were to see that same moisture during the summer when my temps are stable, I’d think something might be up. Do you have any jars that haven’t been inoculated? Do they also have condensation?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Threads2theSoul] * 1
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Threads2theSoul said:
Does condensation ALWAYS = contamination of some sort?
All of these have condensation :frown:
They smell fine but...
Toss 'em???
All are at different timelines of G2G...




Smell fine?  If you opened them to smell them then they’re contaminated now


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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I don't agree based on past experience. If that was so, then this would be the first time in close to a year where the act of opening a colonizing jar of rye then contaminates the jar.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Threads2theSoul] * 4
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You forgot to mention that you have whole-house laminar flow


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight] * 4
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The jar looks contaminated anyway. But yeah, don’t opening colonizing jars and then sniff them.  That is a recipe for contamination


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Threads2theSoul] * 3
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Threads2theSoul said:
I don't agree based on past experience. If that was so, then this would be the first time in close to a year where the act of opening a colonizing jar of rye then contaminates the jar.


This isn't one of those agree to disagree moments.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD] * 5
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Wait this is a discussion about opening a sterile jar of grain that's uncolonized and letting in unsterile air to smell it? Smelling a jar doesn't even help determine contamination. Lots of contamination in jars can smell just fine.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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I don’t know about you but I get a wonderful mushroom smell from my jars when I shake them. Of course the smell is coming from the GE filter and not an open lid.


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