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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
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I Lipa tek hwfp exclusively, I've done it for many years, both for creating sawdust spawn for outdoor beds and for 5lb gourmet fruiting blocks.

Never once had an issue, there won't be viable mold spores or vegetative mycelium present, especially when using boiled water, it was 100% your spawn or some other cross contamination.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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Getting blasted on weed in Hawaii is a pretty good 70,000th if you ask me!

I started with purchased LCs and have had pretty good luck with them other than a heavily bacterial LM syringe. Just found some wild oyster and turkey tail today I’m gonna put to agar and see how they do.

I like the wood pellets because it seems like the quality and weight/volume are more consistent than chips or bedding material. When you hydrate them they pretty much become sawdust anyway.

I bucket tek them and my supplement pellets to hydrate and then load my gourmet bags before PCing. I bet you could do it almost the same way as pf tek where you hydrate and then add the brf before loading and steaming. 50/50 may be a lil heavy tho, you might want to try a few different ratios and see what does best for you

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: TPython]
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Cool! :smile2:

I did see a post about bucket tekking wood pellets and them turning into moist sawdust. I forgot that wood pellets are basically compressed sawdust. :tongue:

Yeah, I will be trying different ratios. Perhaps an 80/20 wood pellets to PF Mix might be better.

I was also thinking of "diluting" some gourmet Liquid Culture by just adding it to say 50mL-100mL of sterile water, essentially making it a Liquid Inoculate. Good idea?

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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I don’t see why not as long as everything is clean.

I’d still drop some on agar for backup just incase though

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: TPython]
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Good idea. Thanks! :thumbup:

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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Hi

If I cold shock my mushrooms overnight to try and induce pinning should i open the bag some to give them air as well or just leave it closed during the cold shock?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: LemonHead] * 2
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I’m not sure what the answer is but I guess the danger of having an open bag in a fridge is that the sub surface could dry out a bit.

I recently cold shocked this enoki. The bag was open at the top so I used some clips to close it a bit to protect it from the dry fridge air. This is my first time with Enoki, the pins look so cool.




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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Telomere] * 2
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Also got some Turkey tail starting to come in



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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Telomere] * 5
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7 days later…

I learned that Enoki needs more moisture and/or co2 to pin for an even flush. Next time I’ll cut less of the bag off when fruiting commences.



Decent amount of growth on the Turkey tail



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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Telomere]
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Did you fruit those in a tent?

I tried doing them over winter in the basement maybe it was too cold. But I couldn't get good pin sets on them.

Yours are a thing of beauty in comparison!


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Telomere]
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Beautiful! Stamets suggests that the bag should extend 6 inches above the fruiting surface for enoki, to get the typical cultivated look (long stems and small caps). It's amazing how different cultivated enoki look compared to photos of it in the wild. I like the look of the larger caps in yours though - how's the flavor and texture?

I've been looking for an enoki culture. Are you open to trading wedges? :grin:


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Telomere] * 1
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Telomere said:
7 days later…

I learned that Enoki needs more moisture and/or co2 to pin for an even flush. Next time I’ll cut less of the bag off when fruiting commences.



Decent amount of growth on the Turkey tail




Beautiful. I wish my TTs would grow normally instead of just pushing wherever there ISN'T a hole in the bag. lol


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Adas] * 2
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I'm new to gourmet but want to get started. I'm hoping that if I list some of the key gear I have, someone can tell me what the easiest thing is to grow with what I've already got, or minimal additions. I'd be happy growing anything delicious, though I am most interested in lion's mane as I've never even tasted it.

I have all the usual agar/LC gear and I can clean up a culture and make inoculant.

I have grow bags (8x5x20 inches, 0.2 micron filter patch) and an impulse sealer.

I have soy hull pellets and hardwood pellets so I can make master's mix.

I have rye grain and BRF, if that is useful.

I have 45 qt tubs and shoeboxes (all unmodified currently) plus coco coir and verm. Though, it sounds like gourmets are not usually grown in tubs?

I'd appreciate any big picture pointers you have on what I should do next. Thanks a bunch!


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Adas] * 1
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tree frog said:
Did you fruit those in a tent?

I tried doing them over winter in the basement maybe it was too cold. But I couldn't get good pin sets on them.

Yours are a thing of beauty in comparison!


Yep I have a Martha set up, computer fan in the top as exhaust and a humidifier running on low. It stays pretty stable at 88-91% rh and 15-17c.

I cold shocked these in my fridge before I fruited them. Did you try that?

Phaethon said:
Beautiful! Stamets suggests that the bag should extend 6 inches above the fruiting surface for enoki, to get the typical cultivated look (long stems and small caps). It's amazing how different cultivated enoki look compared to photos of it in the wild. I like the look of the larger caps in yours though - how's the flavor and texture?

I've been looking for an enoki culture. Are you open to trading wedges? :grin:


I got this culture from cloning grocery store fruits, and I am delighted with how they have come out. Haven’t tried them yet but I’m going to be cooking up a bunch tomorrow.

Yeah totally happy to trade with you. Shoot me a message :goodday:


Adas said:
Telomere said:
7 days later…

I learned that Enoki needs more moisture and/or co2 to pin for an even flush. Next time I’ll cut less of the bag off when fruiting commences.



Decent amount of growth on the Turkey tail




Beautiful. I wish my TTs would grow normally instead of just pushing wherever there ISN'T a hole in the bag. lol


Thank you buddy! This is the best of 3 cultures I took from foraged fruits. The other 2 are way less aggressive and looking like a bust. Really glad I took multiple cultures.



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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Yuggoth]
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Yuggoth said:
I'm new to gourmet but want to get started. I'm hoping that if I list some of the key gear I have, someone can tell me what the easiest thing is to grow with what I've already got, or minimal additions. I'd be happy growing anything delicious, though I am most interested in lion's mane as I've never even tasted it.

I have all the usual agar/LC gear and I can clean up a culture and make inoculant.

I have grow bags (8x5x20 inches, 0.2 micron filter patch) and an impulse sealer.

I have soy hull pellets and hardwood pellets so I can make master's mix.

I have rye grain and BRF, if that is useful.

I have 45 qt tubs and shoeboxes (all unmodified currently) plus coco coir and verm. Though, it sounds like gourmets are not usually grown in tubs?

I'd appreciate any big picture pointers you have on what I should do next. Thanks a bunch!


Sounds like you’re all set for the most part. What kinda scale are you trying to grow? A small Martha system has done wonders for me

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: TPython] * 2
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TPython said:
Sounds like you’re all set for the most part. What kinda scale are you trying to grow? A small Martha system has done wonders for me


Just for personal cuisine. Really, at first, I'd be happy just fruiting one bag or block of anything that I can't easily buy at the grocery store.

While I will build a Martha tent if I have to ... I am hoping I can get started growing something yummy in a bucket, tub, or bag that doesn't require external active humidity control.

(I also like the idea of creating fruiting bags for gifts, if there are delicious species which are easy to grow like that.)


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Yuggoth] * 2
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Black pearl oyster and king oyster work ok to top fruit bags in a tub, though you may need to case it to keep it humid enough, depending on the humidity in your house. Open air with a slit in the bag works for other oysters (which need a lot more fresh air), but I have never been able to keep them moist enough with misting, so they start to crack before completely maturing.

Edit: should also add that I've seen pictures of king or black pearl fruited in vitro. That didn't work so well for me, but maybe with the top cut off and just folded down and clipped for a little more air, and occasional misting, it'd be better. I still want to try that again.

I've fruited Pioppino in shoeboxes, though with pretty shitty yields, and top fruited bags in an EZ dial tub (better, but I had to case it to avoid drying out the surface).

LadysKnight fruited some lion's mane in bottles in a dubtub shoebox that looked pretty great.

Shiitake actually fruited pretty well for me in tubs - two 5 lb blocks per 66 qt tub. It doesn't seem to be very picky about either humidity or FAE. It's a long process though - you need to wait a couple months for the bag to brown before cold shocking, stripping the bag, hosing it off, and putting it in the tub (raised on something so it's not just sitting on the floor).

I've never bothered supplementing a bag yet. I'm sure I'd get nicer and more fruit that way, but Lipa tek is just so easy and I don't mind making a lot of spawn (one mycoquart per 5 lb bag).

Send me a PM if you want any cultures.


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Edited by Phaethon (05/13/24 12:09 AM)

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Phaethon] * 1
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That is great info and thank you kindly for the offer of cultures. I need to do some more reading and get a couple of other projects to a pausing point, then I will dive in.


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Yuggoth] * 8
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I've been fruiting oyster mushrooms and lions mane outside in a fort built out of PVC and shade cloth. You could also do like a hoop house style structure outside. Just find a shady spot if you have one. They don't have to be super big.

I live somewhere where it's pretty humid so I don't know how well that would work in a dry climate. But if you have wild oyster mushrooms in your area something like this should work.








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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Telomere]
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Telomere said:
Thank you buddy! This is the best of 3 cultures I took from foraged fruits. The other 2 are way less aggressive and looking like a bust. Really glad I took multiple cultures.




Ah I see! Might be due to genetics then :frown:


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