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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nanutzu]
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weird. if it's jumping up and down then maybe it's actually holding pressure. if it's just hissing a little and it's not blasting out steam like in that video, then it's probably holding some kind of pressure.

so if you think it's holding some pressure but you don't know how much, i would just cook for 2-3 hours just to be safe. even if it only gets up to 10 psi, you can still sterilize if you do it long enough, it's just not ideal. but if you have no other option, you might as well :shrug:

i wish i could find that sterilization time chart of different psi so you could confirm exactly how long you need to cook. does anyone know where that is?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nanutzu] * 1
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Those filters are most likely the cause. I wouldn't trust
Those to hold back grass seed, let alone mold.

You can claim your agar was clean until your dying breath, but I wouldn't confirm that until I saw a picture.

Also, steaming goes a long way towards sterile


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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FriedEgg said:
weird. if it's jumping up and down then maybe it's actually holding pressure. if it's just hissing a little and it's not blasting out steam like in that video, then it's probably holding some kind of pressure.

so if you think it's holding some pressure but you don't know how much, i would just cook for 2-3 hours just to be safe. even if it only gets up to 10 psi, you can still sterilize if you do it long enough, it's just not ideal. but if you have no other option, you might as well :shrug:

i wish i could find that sterilization time chart of different psi so you could confirm exactly how long you need to cook. does anyone know where that is?



It's definitely building pressure, the valve is releasing steam at half of the speed in the video.

(Wouldn't that be considered venting? while cooking.)


tryptkaloids said:
Those filters are most likely the cause. I wouldn't trust
Those to hold back grass seed, let alone mold.

You can claim your agar was clean until your dying breath, but I wouldn't confirm that until I saw a picture.

Also, steaming goes a long way towards sterile



I can't really say the agar was 100% clean, but it looked clean. I used a SAB for pouring and transfer.
But who knows, might be the agar aswell.

If you're referring to preping the agar then I just boiled it.

I was referring to the mycelium growing in the dish, that was clean (visually).


So far I think my problem was poor sterilization.

...and definitely filters aswell.

Edited by Nanutzu (10/19/23 05:54 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nanutzu]
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Nanutzu said:
It's definitely building pressure, the valve is releasing steam at half of the speed in the video.

(Wouldn't that be considered venting? while cooking.)




no, here's how to vent properly:

open the valve on your PC. heat it. let steam continue to go out for 5 minutes while you're heating it. then close the valve and let the pressure build to maximum. then open the valve and let all the steam go out until it reaches 0 psi or it slows down. then close the toggle and let it get to max pressure. cook for your desired time.
the purpose is to expel all the AIR inside your PC because air will not sterilize your items. we need STEAM. if you don't vent the air out of your PC, there will be little pockets of air that will cause partial sterilization.

there's a lot of info about sterilization here: http://www.frankshospitalworkshop.com/equipment/autoclaves_equipment.html


but yeah, to summarize, you need to:
- hydrate your grain by simmering it until the inside is plump with moisture
- get proper filters for your jars
- sterilize at a high enough psi and for long enough time
- do all the other things correct like clean agar culture, be sterile, etc. but the mycelium in your jar looks fine IMO so i think your agar is probably clean.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nanutzu]
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Did you pc your dishes that you poured the agar into?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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FriedEgg said:
Nanutzu said:
It's definitely building pressure, the valve is releasing steam at half of the speed in the video.

(Wouldn't that be considered venting? while cooking.)




no, here's how to vent properly:

open the valve on your PC. heat it. let steam continue to go out for 5 minutes while you're heating it. then close the valve and let the pressure build to maximum. then open the valve and let all the steam go out until it reaches 0 psi or it slows down. then close the toggle and let it get to max pressure. cook for your desired time.
the purpose is to expel all the AIR inside your PC because air will not sterilize your items. we need STEAM. if you don't vent the air out of your PC, there will be little pockets of air that will cause partial sterilization.

there's a lot of info about sterilization here: http://www.frankshospitalworkshop.com/equipment/autoclaves_equipment.html


but yeah, to summarize, you need to:
- hydrate your grain by simmering it until the inside is plump with moisture
- get proper filters for your jars
- sterilize at a high enough psi and for long enough time
- do all the other things correct like clean agar culture, be sterile, etc. but the mycelium in your jar looks fine IMO so i think your agar is probably clean.



Thanks so much for all the info.

Will do a new batch soon.
DERRAYLD said:
Did you pc your dishes that you poured the agar into?



I didn't because they came sealed, apparently saying they're sterilized.
I got them from a medical lab.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nanutzu]
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:thumbup:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nanutzu]
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Ok but you didn't pc your agar, did you boil it for long enough to sterilize it?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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DERRAYLD said:
Ok but you didn't pc your agar, did you boil it for long enough to sterilize it?



I did it for around 40 min or more.

I think the agar was pretty clean, I did get contamination in half of the dishes though. I opened some to have a look because of condensation.

I learned now not to open anymore and use a cup of water to clear the condensation.

Anyway, this time I'll PC the agar aswell.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nanutzu]
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Hi to all

I've been dabbling with SSLC recently, this is a QQ for SSLC heads:

Do you find that if mycelium is growing on the top layer, you're in the clear? Or is that in no way an indicator of clean LC?

I dropped my wedges so that they sat on the top layer & I didn't shake or swirl with the hope that seeing clean growth would mean it's clean, similar idea to an agar dish, but it's probably not that simple eh

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: stockw]
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Im thinking of cloning this more normal looking melmac. the blob looks cool though.

also a p nat pin

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: huey.bluey]
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stockw said:
Hi to all

I've been dabbling with SSLC recently, this is a QQ for SSLC heads:

Do you find that if mycelium is growing on the top layer, you're in the clear? Or is that in no way an indicator of clean LC?

I dropped my wedges so that they sat on the top layer & I didn't shake or swirl with the hope that seeing clean growth would mean it's clean, similar idea to an agar dish, but it's probably not that simple eh



Unfortunately not

huey.bluey said:
Im thinking of cloning this more normal looking melmac. the blob looks cool though.

also a p nat pin




Dont see a question here

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: milkboy]
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QQ: Could you use a plin to streak a plate? This guy wouldn't come off the scalpel and I'm seeing growth where I tried to get it off before it fell to its resting place.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pnin]
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I just transferred my first plin and it was rolling all around while I wrapped the plate. I managed to get it somewhat back to center, but there is myc growth all over.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pnin]
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Pnin said:
QQ: Could you use a plin to streak a plate? This guy wouldn't come off the scalpel and I'm seeing growth where I tried to get it off before it fell to its resting place.





Yes, those are satellite colonies left over from a few cells getting left behind as you manipulated your sample. Very common. Not a problem.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Thanks Hobbit!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pnin]
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QQ. Sorry for lack of pictures.

I notice a lot of my mushrooms, even in the good tubs of mine (ones putting out ~1.5 oz dry per qt spawn), have a high number of mushrooms growing horizontally along the surface of the substrate.

Why?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Traveled]
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Yea, grey or green :thumbdown:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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While transfering inside the SAB and after getting the little wedge, do you put the donor's petri dish cover back on it? I mean while you plan to keep taking more transfers from the donor.

When taking the little transfer, where do you put the cover for those seconds? On a paper towel soaked with ISO 70% is OK?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nerex] * 1
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Nerex said:
While transfering inside the SAB and after getting the little wedge, do you put the donor's petri dish cover back on it? I mean while you plan to keep taking more transfers from the donor.

When taking the little transfer, where do you put the cover for those seconds? On a paper towel soaked with ISO 70% is OK?



I always close donor plate before opening new plate for transfer. I only clamshell the recipient plate and keep it open as short a time as possible.

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