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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DoomShroom420]
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Rosco said:
So I haven’t been using spore syringes but liquid culture which is the result of agar correct?


LC is much safer and better. But even LC from the most trusted vendor should be tested on agar before being shot to grains. Also very few vendor selling LC.

DoomShroom420 said:
As someone who is also learning to work with Agar soon can you elaborate on what you mean when you say they get "cleaned up" on Agar?


You grow your spores on agar and transfer clean areas to fresh plates until you have clean mycelium. Then you send that to grains.

Edited by RockinRobot (10/11/23 01:42 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RockinRobot]
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Ok that's what I thought you meant I just wanted to make sure I understood correctly. That's where your scalpel comes into play than huh? So even if some of the Agar on a petri gets bacteria you can take from the same dish if it has healthy myc as well and only use the healthy culture?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DoomShroom420] * 1
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Spore syringes aren’t clean. Tents aren’t useful.

You’ve got so much to learn, it’s a really exciting time. Things aren’t at all what they seem right now. You need a pressure cooker and some agar powder, brother. Get some quart jars. It is so much easier than you can possibly imagine.

Edit: sorry looks like I replied kinda late


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DoomShroom420]
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DoomShroom420 said:
Ok that's what I thought you meant I just wanted to make sure I understood correctly. That's where your scalpel comes into play than huh? So even if some of the Agar on a petri gets bacteria you can take from the same dish if it has healthy myc as well and only use the healthy culture?


I've used Josex's poke method with a sterile blunt-needle syringe. Compared with using a scalpel, this method needs less time with the lid off the dish and it samples from a smaller part of the plate. Both features make it less likely that you'll transfer contaminants along with the culture you want.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DoomShroom420]
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DoomShroom420 said:
Ok that's what I thought you meant I just wanted to make sure I understood correctly. That's where your scalpel comes into play than huh? So even if some of the Agar on a petri gets bacteria you can take from the same dish if it has healthy myc as well and only use the healthy culture?


The first part of it is transferring myc away from satellite colonies of mold or bacteria.

The second part is more tricky.  Bacteria can be on the mycelium itself, in a way that doesn't show as a pool of goo or anything else so clear and obvious.  When mycelium is truly clean, it will grow very uniformly, and beautifully.  That's why you keep transferring even after it's all white.  You have to watch the growth characteristics, because we don't have microscope eyes.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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How much grain expansion can I expect from the millet 18-24 hour soak/strain/load wet tek?

I have nine jars 2/3rds to 3/4s full.  I may have prepped a bit to much grain.  But some of these jars will probably end up receiving jars and I'm thinking I might be better off feeding the extra millet to the birds and staying at the 2/3rds mark.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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If they're gonna be recipient jars then I'd leave the spare room. You don't have any cheap Tupperware laying around?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
If they're gonna be recipient jars then I'd leave the spare room. You don't have any cheap Tupperware laying around?


Thanks.  And yeah I dug up p9s tek, said two cups was good

tons of Tupperware

what was your thought?  toss it in the fridge?

edit:  btw, thanks for the inspiration to try something new everyone that talked about this yesterday.

i do have consistent millet prep down but I boil water and soak fifteen minutes, after soaking overnight and rinsing etc.  dry till dry dry.  like six hours here in the humidity.  plus, with cold weather, drying outside is way less practical


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I'd be running up that road
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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If they're pp5 you can pc them.  Just slap a filter on the lid


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Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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I think my pc will be full at nine jars.. but I just remembered I have a bunch of smaller unicorn bags.

So if I remove a jar I can add a bag or two and just pc longer.


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And if I only could
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And I'd get him to swap our places
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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Just run 2 cycles:shrug:
It'll be fine in the fridge meantime


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Prolific Koi] * 1
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I HATE Redit. I delete it everytime I screw up and redownload it. I will not be censored. The only way to beat bad speech is with good speech that completely destroys their point either threw logic or threw socratic questions that lead them to the error in their thinking. Preventing people from posting ideas with which they disagree with does nothing but create a bubble/echo chamber where everyone can sit around and tell each other how great their often times dumb ideas are. I get it, its a privately owned company and they can choose what gets said, unfortunately I'm old enough to remember what freedom of speech and debate actually feels like. F the Reddit Nazis deciding what can be said.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Joe mamma] * 1
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I try it every few years but always end up uninstalling it. Anytime I ever try to post something on Reddit it gets deleted for one reason or another. Either not the right flair, or I said something I wasnt supposed to, or for whatever reason. So, yea, I agree with your assessment; Fuck reddit.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Joe mamma] * 3
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Where's the question?
Or even the context?


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Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Reddit is good for some things but never mushroom growing advice.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CocaineBuffet]
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r/buttsharpies


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The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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So i opened my jar after a two weeks or so and my mushrooms are bendy, they don't crack.

Should i put them to dry again or are they good for nothing? Is the moisture eaten all the good out of them in that period?

Sorry for stupid question, im a noob. The thing is that i ate 1.4-1.5g and didn't experienced nothing. After that i ate same amount with difference that i dried these ~45°C for 22 hrs. They looked dry to me and they were snappin. After i opened bag they still were snappy.

That all is second question i guess.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: killreflection] * 1
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#1 & #2 pics are of my water tub, mini I guess cause I used a 6 Quart shoebox. I have a portable fish bowl oxygeniser in there too. Is that a good idea for a project this small? I also got a small fish tank water heater? Should I use that? Or just leave it be since it's been growing so nicely.its my first flush on this one with jedi mind fuck spores but second grow, picture #3 I put on here because I'm wondering if I should move it or put a plastic top? Does have some pins visible. Just added the casing of verm since the mycelium was getting long and stringy growing away from cake.
Finally pictures #4 & #5 are my second flush and I was wondering if the cake touching the perlite was a concern, btw these are b+'s they are in a 32 qt monotub with 6 1"1/2 holes with special filter stickers. Any advice I'd appreciate, I'll post more pictures tonight.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Anthology91] * 1
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If they’re bendy they’re not all the way dry. Personally I’d ditch them at that point


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The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Anthology91]
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Anthology91 said:
#1 & #2 pics are of my water tub, mini I guess cause I used a 6 Quart shoebox. I have a portable fish bowl oxygeniser in there too. Is that a good idea for a project this small? I also got a small fish tank water heater? Should I use that? Or just leave it be since it's been growing so nicely.its my first flush on this one with jedi mind fuck spores but second grow, picture #3 I put on here because I'm wondering if I should move it or put a plastic top? Does have some pins visible. Just added the casing of verm since the mycelium was getting long and stringy growing away from cake.
Finally pictures #4 & #5 are my second flush and I was wondering if the cake touching the perlite was a concern, btw these are b+'s they are in a 32 qt monotub with 6 1"1/2 holes with special filter stickers. Any advice I'd appreciate, I'll post more pictures tonight.


I think you're really just making your life more complicated. I'd ditch the oxygenizer and the heater (unless the room they're in is freezing cold but even then it's asking for problems: use a space heater). The mycelium getting long and stringy means you've got too much humidity in there, or rather not enough passive airflow. Keep the water tub, unlatch the lid or rotate it slightly (like a 5 degrees angle at a time at most) if it gets too wet and you get aerial myc.

As for the cake touching the perlite, I'm not exactly sure what to tell you but I'd make that grill a bit more elevated so it stays off the bottom of the tub.

killreflection said:
So i opened my jar after a two weeks or so and my mushrooms are bendy, they don't crack.


I'd probably ditch them as well. Get some silica gel packets (or any other passive desiccant of your choice) and throw some in the jar you plan to keep them in after you've dried them. Good rule of thumb is about 1 gram of silica per litre of volume in the container.

Edited by MrJong (10/12/23 08:49 AM)

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