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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Camera93]
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Camera93 said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Does anyone have a link to a post that explains biological efficiency in idiot terms?


bottom of Bods tek he goes over BE a little bit


Bod simplifies it down to one (dry) ounce per quart is about 100% BE.

The math is in his post and an ounce per quart is what I shoot for too.  Less feels disappointing.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog] * 1
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BE is only applicable to gourmet grows, imo. The best way to track active grows is by water efficiency, potency, and density.  BE just allows a farmer to determine what average yields to expect per unit of dry materials, essentially, which doesn't really translate to cubes all that well.

The minimum 1 dry oz/quart is another decent starting point, as illustrated by bod, but this gives the impression that more spawn = more mush.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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I've read some people put used coffee grounds in potted plants or soil mixes.  Would it make sense to add clean coffee grounds (max 1 day old) to my cvg mix prior to mixing with boiling water?  If so, by what proportion?  Would I be increasing contam risks?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: albertor] * 2
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The coir/verm substrate is only intended to supply water and give the colony an inert structure to colonize. The addition of ammendments like coffee, which is nitrogen dense will require sterilization and risks the potential for mold.

The grains supply all of the macro/micro nutrient requirements for thw flush, no need to add coffee or anything else.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Stipe-n Cap said:
The grains supply all of the macro/micro nutrient requirements for thw flush, no need to add coffee or anything else.


EVERYONE REPEAT AFTER STIPE:

No need to add anything else.
No need to add anything else.
No need to add anything else.

Now do one on drying.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DharmaForKarma]
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what is the best thing to use when pouring agar?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DharmaForKarma] * 1
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Anyone seen this before or know what it is. My buddy sent me this asking if I could help him. He's drying at 150f but this stuff looks really weird.



Almost looks like some sorta resin or something.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: WyoMX] * 1
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I'm not sure but happy birthday :laugh:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DoomShroom420]
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DoomShroom420 said:
what is the best thing to use when pouring agar?


In regards to the vessel youā€™re pouring from or what? I pour from 500ml media bottles into single use petris.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DoomShroom420] * 1
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DoomShroom420 said:
what is the best thing to use when pouring agar?


Having at least one hand is key.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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beaker, cup, mug, pot, jar. whats easiest. We all start somewhere hehe


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DoomShroom420]
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Are there some genetics that just refuse to fruit well? I have unknown PE variant that just refuses to fruit


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: chikn fingaz]
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Spacecadet94 said:
Are there some genetics that just refuse to fruit well? I have unknown PE variant that just refuses to fruit


Maybe itā€™s genes maybe itā€™s unfamiliarity with Penis Envy. But I donā€™t waste time with non performers. Go back to spore or move on to another culture, thatā€™s my mindset


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DoomShroom420]
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DoomShroom420 said:
beaker, cup, mug, pot, jar. whats easiest. We all start somewhere hehe


media bottles are great, i use the 250ml


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: WyoMX]
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Stipe-n Cap said:
BE is only applicable to gourmet grows, imo. The best way to track active grows is by water efficiency, potency, and density.  BE just allows a farmer to determine what average yields to expect per unit of dry materials, essentially, which doesn't really translate to cubes all that well.

The minimum 1 dry oz/quart is another decent starting point, as illustrated by bod, but this gives the impression that more spawn = more mush.


That makes more sense for a farmer.  Really, BE should never be over 100% because nothing can be more than 100% efficient.  It should be dry input (grains) to dry output (dried mush).  This is also more useful for cubes.  I'm sure people will go on to calculate it however they want, and I guess as long as the data is meaningful to them, it's good.

WyoMX said:
Anyone seen this before or know what it is. My buddy sent me this asking if I could help him. He's drying at 150f but this stuff looks really weird.



Almost looks like some sorta resin or something.


Black liquid is pretty sketchy, but I don't know what it would be.  I tried to convince myself it was spores that got a little wet but were still super dark, but I don't think that's it.  I would at least try to cut around it and get rid of it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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Biological efficiency (BE) = the wet weight of fruits / the dry weight of the substrate * 100.

Gourmet farmers are weighing wet produce contrasted with dry material input like sawdust, and ammendments. This dry substrate contains nutritional supplementation, spawn is used sparingly.

Cube growers use cereal grains as a 1:1 replacement for dry powder or soy hull supplementation, and use far less substrate by weight. So this throws the BE calculation way off, imo. We use 4+ lbs of spawn contrasted by the 8-12oz or so used to inoculate 10+lbs of sawdust blocks.

I guess it still works for cubes, but it's not ideal.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Quick agar question. I've taken a transfer from this plate and all three petris look fine so far. When do I know that taken enough transfers and can confidently put them to some grain?






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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
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DoomShroom420 said:
beaker, cup, mug, pot, jar. whats easiest. We all start somewhere hehe

ball makes a pour lid with a cap that sits just snug enough
Stipe-n Cap said:
Biological efficiency (BE) = the wet weight of fruits / the dry weight of the substrate * 100.

Gourmet farmers are weighing wet produce contrasted with dry material input like sawdust, and ammendments. This dry substrate contains nutritional supplementation, spawn is used sparingly.

Cube growers use cereal grains as a 1:1 replacement for dry powder or soy hull supplementation, and use far less substrate by weight. So this throws the BE calculation way off, imo. We use 4+ lbs of spawn contrasted by the 8-12oz or so used to inoculate 10+lbs of sawdust blocks.

I guess it still works for cubes, but it's not ideal.


This makes me feel a lot better about never bothering to learn it. Getting more than 100% always confused me.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Would you come any of these second flush PE?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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If I just had to Iā€™d pick the fat boy at the bottom in the right tub.


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