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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: rumfor69] * 3
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rumfor69 said:
:whathesaid: it'll go green soon just wait for it



i wouldnt wait id toss that immediately. in the compost pile ye be.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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Yeah don’t give it the chance to sporulate and taint you grow area.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: HILLBILLY OUTLAW]
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How are these looking? The square one was sent to bulk on April 21, the rectangle the day after.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus] * 1
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i suspect mold on the first one.

that kinda grey sorta cloud looking stuff looks like trich myc. check the underside of the tote you may already see green.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
i suspect mold on the first one.

that kinda grey sorta cloud looking stuff looks like trich myc. check the underside of the tote you may already see green.



Shit, I had a weird feeling about that. No green as far as I can see yet. Should I just throw it away?

I’ll take better pics of the rectangle in a bit, the light is bad right now


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Edited by Mycodemus (05/10/23 08:59 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus] * 1
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hang on to it until its obvious or you see green.

right now its 'highly suspect'.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
hang on to it until its obvious or you see green.

right now its 'highly suspect'.



Thanks. Will do.

I know the rectangle is pretty dry, but I saw someone saying a few pages back not to mist while it’s still colonizing so I’m unsure what to do. The box itself is steamy.


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Edited by Mycodemus (05/10/23 09:05 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bd1zzl3] * 1
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Bd1zzl3 said:
Been about 39 days since spawned, still not a pin in sight. If there's water beading on surface and i havent misted in over a week or so does that mean the sub still has plenty of moisture? I woulda thought something would have sprouted by now.






How is the tub getting air at the moment? I'd suggest upping the FAE a little, keep on with not misting and see if that helps.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: johnukguy]
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As you can see i have some agar plates with mini shrooms out of the jars...
It only smells good like mushrooms...

What can i do now with my box?
Because of no Holes and too much co2 too less fae ?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: johnukguy]
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Is the best practice for spawning slightly questionable spawn shoeboxes?

I ask because I've got quite a few jars which I'd now deem questionable after learning more from people here (some wet grain against glass) & a few more with uncolonised sections.

I'm not willing to ditch them all as I'd hope to get at least something.

Don't get me wrong I've definitely learnt from this & I understand clean spawn is king, but yeah, it's a lot of time & work to throw away for me.

If shoebox is the way forward, is there a particular tek specific to this situation? Casing layer or not, set & forget or not etc?

Thanks for all the help

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BirkenSaft]
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First of all, good to see that you're using agar. Secondly, don't tilt the jars like that as it's liable to compromise the verm layer and increase the likelihood of contamination. As for your tub, I'd recommend switching to a water tub setup and ditch the hygrometers as they tell you very little that's of use.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: stockw] * 1
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What shoebox specific Tek are you thinking of using? In general the only major difference that I can think of is having a lower ratio of spawn to substrate perhaps. So 1:1, 1:2 at the most for questionable spawn.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: johnukguy]
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So another tub I do not have....

That would mean I have to take my SAB, glue it shut and put the existing growing cakes in there,
then modify my "pseudo" fruit box by removing the tyvek and taping over it with duck tape, throwing out the seramis,
cleaning the box completely, of course the hygrometers out...

And then I need 4 glasses, a grid and then the cakes will go on it

Question about this:
1. if I rebuild my box and put the 4 glasses in there as a fixation of the grid, do the glasses have to be filled with water?

1. should my cakes already soaked in water and rolled with vermiculite really need to be soaked again + rolled in unpasteurized coconut? I mean does that have to be? would not that be a bit too much? After all, they are already growing...

2. directly initiate fruiting, or give 2-5 days time with closed lid to grow through and then just put the lid on diagonally?

Currently still runs a heating mat at 21-22 degrees celsius (69-70f)

Thanks for your advice

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: johnukguy]
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johnukguy said:
Bd1zzl3 said:
Been about 39 days since spawned, still not a pin in sight. If there's water beading on surface and i havent misted in over a week or so does that mean the sub still has plenty of moisture? I woulda thought something would have sprouted by now.






How is the tub getting air at the moment? I'd suggest upping the FAE a little, keep on with not misting and see if that helps.



Lids flipped, should i create more gap so it can get more fae?  Thanks

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BirkenSaft]
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There are no separate fruiting conditions anymore. Air and light are allowed from the get go. Don't use fans or heating mats. You don't need to fiddle with your SAB, just go get a cheap tub when you can. For the water tub, I'd recommend that you follow this Tek:

Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bd1zzl3]
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I think that a flipped lid should provide enough FAE and you may just be in a waiting game at the moment. You can try cracking the lid open a bit more and see if things change over the next few days but be careful not to let the substrate surface dry out. I suspect though that it's more a matter of patience at this point. Unless someone more experienced here can suggest other steps to take that I haven't thought of?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: stockw] * 2
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stockw said:
Is the best practice for spawning slightly questionable spawn shoeboxes?

I ask because I've got quite a few jars which I'd now deem questionable after learning more from people here (some wet grain against glass) & a few more with uncolonised sections.

I'm not willing to ditch them all as I'd hope to get at least something.

Don't get me wrong I've definitely learnt from this & I understand clean spawn is king, but yeah, it's a lot of time & work to throw away for me.

If shoebox is the way forward, is there a particular tek specific to this situation? Casing layer or not, set & forget or not etc?

Thanks for all the help



A bit of clear bacterial gunk or a few partially colonized wet grains will likely colonize bulk and fruit decently. These usually recover slowly after a break and shake and do best with higher spawn ratios.

If significant portions are uncolonized they are more vulnerable to mold taking over and ruining any other spawn in the tub. I’d just scoop those areas out entirely while spawning.

Shoeboxes keep less of your eggs per basket in case one molds on you. I found some 2.2 L Tupperware containers where four of them fit a monotub perfectly for similar effect.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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10 days colonizing- Should I go to fruiting conditions now? The growth seems halted the last 72 hours or so. Casing layer is likely thickest in the bald spot in the middle. I should start fruiting now... right?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: bfraz411]
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You were already informed in responses to your first post that it's common practice now to have the same conditions from the get go. There aren't any separate fruiting conditions as such. So allow some constant, passive air and a little light from the beginning. There's no need to wait.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: johnukguy]
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Thanks but you repeat yourself.

My Questions doesnt get answered

ive read the water Tub tek 3 times now but still dont know what to do with my 5 day old vermi dunked cakes^^

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