mushboy said:

Lol did you read that link it contradicts your claim of 100,000 of Ukraine troops it says Russia accused Ukraine of deploying half that number to the east.

Also says Russia denies it plans to invaded.

Great link

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This is the entire article with nothing removed from my end.  https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-ukraine-has-deployed-half-its-army-donbass-conflict-zone-2021-12-01/

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MOSCOW, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Russia accused Ukraine on Wednesday of deploying half of its army or 125,000 troops to Donbass, a conflict zone in eastern Ukraine, where government forces have been battling Russia-backed separatists since 2014.

The accusation was levelled by Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova during a briefing in Moscow. There was no immediate response from Kyiv.

Russia has said it is worried about Ukrainian intentions as tensions between Kyiv and Moscow spike over Western fears about a new Russian attack on Ukraine, something Russia has dismissed as fear-mongering.

Zakharova also commented on an offer by Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan for Ankara to serve as a mediator between Russia and Ukraine. She said that offer did not refer to the conflict in Donbass between Ukrainian government forces and Russia-backed separatists.

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mushboy said:

i also used yahoo

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https://au.sports.yahoo.com/russia-says-ukraine-deployed-half-083918425.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANf02etkgpgZchVCrSFzt8YBDoTPhh-bjOQRGSJghHYhRNsrCuR6DBCQFBQ04yJ5SO_U9JFYin7OAMfNtEWHHhj3BJV5plimtlOFniiP7uGbXxEO9VARpaHTL1cKZdGVdix0g20PzQrwOHgW3EWowbyJhjRQi9MjhoR1OmghRQ0G

Yahoo quoted Reuters word for word

Quote:

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia accused Ukraine on Wednesday of deploying half of its army or 125,000 troops to Donbass, a conflict zone in eastern Ukraine, where government forces have been battling Russia-backed separatists since 2014.

The accusation was levelled by Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova during a briefing in Moscow. There was no immediate response from Kyiv.

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It'd be easy to accuse you of not being able to do a simple Google search, or in this case a Yahoo search, and advise you to not give up your day job but we are trying to better ourselves so I won't.

What's disturbing is that it appears that the lead up to this conflict is not appearing easily when you try to do a search. Yahoo has it buried in the Sports section so NO you are NOT entirely stupid.


If you want a more in depth and balanced report you can read RT's article yes I know that quoting RT pisses people off but THAT'S NOT MY PROBLEM.

https://www.rt.com/russia/541994-peace-plan-donbass-moscow/

Here's a snippet of Anthony Blinken talking out of both sides of his mouth

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“The Russians say that they believe the Minsk agreement should be implemented.
The Ukrainians say the same thing. Well, I think if that were to happen, that at least would resolve
the problem in the Donbas in eastern Ukraine,” Washington’s envoy claimed.

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Quote:

He argued that the White House will see if Moscow is “serious” about establishing peace in the region, and warned the Kremlin that “there has to be a very clear understanding that if there is further aggression in Ukraine, there will be consequences.”

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Quote:

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has refused to hold talks

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mushboy said:

Nah I miss read the wording I apologize

Even if I can’t read it’s still a shit article and has russia lying it’s ass off.

I was also being sarcastic with my yahoo line.

We make a good team

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+1 for the apology cool

-1 for reading the links with blinkers on and the only thing you're taking away is 'but but Russia lying'.

Zelensky did NOTHING to diffuse the situation in eastern Ukraine even after making it a platform for his election, now he's reaping
what he sowed and no I'm not talking about wheat just in case you're confused. That's sarcasm 

Stable Genius said:

Stable Genius said:

The first one that came up was Wikipedia    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_involvement_in_regime_change

Since 1945

1944-1947: Romania
1944–1949: Xinjiang
1944–1946: Bulgaria
1944–1946: Poland
1945–1949: Hungary
1945: Germany
1945–1950: China
1945–1953: Korea
1946–1954: Philippines
1946–1949: Greece
1948: Czechoslovakia
1948–1949: Yugoslavia
1956: Hungary
1958: Lebanon
1959–1975: Laos
1961–1962: Western New Guinea
1961–1974: Angola
1961–1965: Congo-Leopoldville
1963–1974: Guinea-Bissau
1963–1967: Kenya
1963–1970: Yemen
1963–1976: Oman
1964–1974: Mozambique
1964–1989: Colombia
1965–1979: Rhodesia
1965–1983: Thailand
1966–1990: Namibia
1967–1975: Cambodia
1968–1988: Italy
1968: Czechoslovakia
1968–1989: Malaysia
1969–1991: Philippines
1969–1989: Xinjiang, China
1978: Somalia
1978–1979: Cambodia
1980–1986: Uganda

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That's a list of Soviet Union involvement in regime change.

This is the Wikipedia Russian list since 1991 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_involvement_in_regime_change

2004 Ukraine
2008 Georgia
2014 Ukraine
2016 Montenegro
2020 Mali
2022 Ukraine

If you remove the countries where NATO was a factor you're left with Mali

Quote:

There are several reports suggesting that Russia was behind the coup in Mali as two coup plotters Colonel Malick Diaw and Sadio Camara were said to be trained in Russia before staging a coup.[27][28]

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Would you agree it's not much of a smoking gun story about Russia Brian?

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mushboy said:

Russia says it’s not invading it’s just western hysteria. … then they invade.

Kinda hard to get past that glaring lie just to focus on blikens words seems like a massive distraction from the obvious truth.

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mycosis said:

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Stable Genius said:

Yes that's right because nobody took Russia's concerns seriously

Now the Ukrainian people and Russian soldiers are paying for it.

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mycosis said:

I'm not going to fuck your mum...I'm not going to fuck your mum....aaaaaand now I'm going to fuck your mum!

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