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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: rizhomushroom]
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Update:

Bags seem to be doing well even with being sterilized in the 55 gallon drum. There is one bag that may contaminate but I cant tell if it just a dark grain or a contaim spot, time will tell.
bags were inoculated 1/16/22 with various strains, and with LC and straight petri dish cultures.
In order initial growth around 1/20 i shook the bags about three or four days ago and are recovering well.













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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: rizhomushroom]
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Looking good rhizo! Is there any concern of the bags being too close together and getting too hot? I've read to keep airflow between them, but don't have any experience growing en masse from bags myself. How's the ambient temp in there?

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: Soviet Data]
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Soviet Data said:
Looking good rhizo! Is there any concern of the bags being too close together and getting too hot? I've read to keep airflow between them, but don't have any experience growing en masse from bags myself. How's the ambient temp in there?


thank you! I've run tons of bags like this with no problem, or course we all run into contamination at some point, but i do this this because it on the colder side in my house, low 60's so it seems to help. I will have to come up with a better approach in the future though, I will cross that road when it approaches.
Right now i have a lot going on i was fired from my job so job hunting is eating up a lot of my time right now and I'm falling behind on my plans, such as life i guess, one step at a time and i will find a way to get back on track.

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: rizhomushroom]
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Hell yeah! Keep working at it, I believe in you! Job hunting always sucks.

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: Soviet Data]
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Thank you for the support, that means a lot to me! yeah its a pain in the ass writing cover letters, endless phone calls, waste of time interviews urgh its a mess.

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: rizhomushroom]
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Cover letters are the absolute worst! Why isn't a resume enough haha

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: Soviet Data]
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This is legitness.

Following.

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: Mr.GameAndWatch]
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:popcorn:


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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: soppos] * 3
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Just another quick update. I'm really starting to fall be hide on my schedule and my grain is colonized passed my liking, so i moved them down to my garage where it is much colder in hopes of slowing the growth as i try to catch up. Had to move the humidity control box and ran the exhaust for the grow room. still have a few things to tightly up before its ready to run. 
Luckily my unicorn bags came in today, and my new amazing impulse sealer and I'm shooting to prep masters mix tomorrow then sterilize it, so about another 2-3 day till i can start inoculating the bags.
As i said before I've been job hunting and going on interviews fighting with unemployment so my schedule is all messed up. I have free time tomorrow so hopefully i can kick some of the work out.












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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: rizhomushroom]
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Nice sealer :vibin:


FYI they have a little microswitch under the bottom plate that sometimes needs adjustment as the sealer gets broken in (a couple thousand cycles) This isn't always the case as I have 2 and only one has done it. Talking to other mushroom farmers since then I've found its pretty common

It will get to where you have to press really hard to get the magnet to grab. If this eventually happens you just have to take the 4 screws out of the bottom and adjust the little jack bolt on the microswitch.

This is the kind of shit no one told me. I lived with mine being a pain in the ass for weeks before I finally took it apart to figure out what the hell was going on and found the switch.


Also fuck finding a job. Grow mushrooms
Nothing gets your shit together like necessity

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: Stromrider]
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Strom has the right idea... Grow them mushrooms!

(But in case you need a few extra days, don't be afraid to put your spawn bags in the fridge to keep them fresh until your ready)

Finishing your daily tasks and sticking to your weekly schedule is both the hardest and most important part of running a mushroom farm.

Edited by deadmandave (02/01/22 07:52 PM)

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: deadmandave]
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Nice setup! I wish you all the best with your mushroom biz
I own a different kind of biz and can tell ya it's ok to get a lil behind sometimes but don't let it overwhelm you and when you need to, stay up late getting all caught up on things.  You'll be glad you did
:grampofapproval:


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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: Stromrider]
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Stromrider said:
Nice sealer :vibin:


FYI they have a little microswitch under the bottom plate that sometimes needs adjustment as the sealer gets broken in (a couple thousand cycles) This isn't always the case as I have 2 and only one has done it. Talking to other mushroom farmers since then I've found its pretty common

It will get to where you have to press really hard to get the magnet to grab. If this eventually happens you just have to take the 4 screws out of the bottom and adjust the little jack bolt on the microswitch.

This is the kind of shit no one told me. I lived with mine being a pain in the ass for weeks before I finally took it apart to figure out what the hell was going on and found the switch.


Also fuck finding a job. Grow mushrooms
Nothing gets your shit together like necessity


Awesome thank for the tip with the impulse sealer, i love that thing. Believe it or not i was using one of those 30$ blue 2 or 3mm sealers before, what a pain in the ass that was.
I wish i could just focus on the mushrooms but my savings is drying up fast since unemployment is dicking me around, plus i need health insurance real bad.



Thanks guys for the on going support, so here have some pictures!
also fuck bagging by hand! that's the next thing to build is a bagging machine, i have one half way designed up but will definitely need a lot of revisions.

Substrate Mixed up,hydrated to field capacity and put into the sterilizer.








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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: rizhomushroom]
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Looks like youre using 3t bags for production blocks. They will work but most people use those for spawn and the 14a for production blocks. Same bag with different filter. The 3t has a 2 micron and the 14a a 5 micron. The 14a breathes a little better and is slightly cheaper

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: Stromrider]
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Yeah i had a pile of unmarked bags, so i just decided to use the rest of them since i dont know what they were. I ordered 1000 14a bags and in hide sight i should have ordered some .2 micron bags too. guess ill be putting in another order.

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: rizhomushroom]
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At least it's free shipping either way. Hard to believe but according to my math bags are my largest expense. Substrate is a really close second

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: Stromrider]
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Alright have an update, with mostly issues that I've seen so far.
  • Made way to much spawn for a trial run
  • My table is way too small
  • Need to upgrade my flow-hood to a 4'x2' minimum
  • SPACE, this is going to be a big issue that will need some thinking,so for now its going to be smaller runs
  • Climate control, i have that heater but i am so paranoid about running it 24/7, i feel like ill burn the house down when im gone. I've insulated the garage the best i can and on the colder days here it will drop into the 40F's without heat.


I'm sure ill run into even more issues the further i go down the line, but this is to be expected. As issues arise i will do my best to address them, some being more difficult than others, but always keep pushing forward to make this work. Taking things one step at a time as my life is absolute chaos right now, and im sure many of yours lives are too.

So now we wait again to see if everything was sterile and good to go. Since i have so much extra spawn im going to do a trail run with that mixed hardwood sawdust to see if i can make that work too. As always i will continue to update as things go on.











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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: rizhomushroom]
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Yeah space a huge set of bottlenecks. Space in the lab, space for incubation, space in the fc, space in the sterilizers...

You're right tho you could use a bigger table for inoculation. Bigger hood never hurts but unless you get an ffu, hoods also take up a lot of space.

I just want to give you my experience, I have a 2x2, an 18x24 and a 12x24. I use the 12x24 more than anything else because it takes up the least table space. Using the 12x24 Im able to inoculate 45 bags in under 45 minutes (jar to bag and bag to bag). 

What kind of heater are you using? oil radiant heaters are very safe imo. I run one in my garage 24/7 in the winter.

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: deadmandave]
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No matter how much you expand there never seems to be enough space lol

I'm sure this can be argued but I think you need at least 2x3 flowhood to comfortably work with bags but if you're going that big might as well go 2x4

I recommend you put your sealer up against your hood and seal with the hood blowing in the bag. I started out doing it like you have it and it caused me issues. It also helps to inflate the bag. Inflated bags are much easier to shake



When I'm doing culture work I turn my hood down to the classic amount of bending a flame. When I'm doing bags I run that baby wide open. It would blow a lighter out 2' away. Helps inflate the bags and keeps me cooled off as well

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Re: Starting my mushroom buisness [Re: Stromrider]
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Impulse sealers are too time-consuming too expensive and cause you to move around too much. Buy releasable cable ties. I have them all over the place, so you will use them even if you don't use them for the bags. When you have to deflate the bags you just release the tie and push out the air. It takes no time. I seal my bag immediately after spawning right in front of the flow hood Twist the bag and slap the tie, on it takes about 3 seconds. I have never had a problem with contamination...

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Releasable-cable-50LBS-100pcs/dp/B004C4ZRIK/ref=sr_1_5?crid=VYTSOGW6RYIC&keywords=monoprice+cable+ties&qid=1644273268&s=industrial&sprefix=monoprice+cable+ties%2Cindustrial%2C88&sr=1-5

I am sure you want to use your sealer but I thought I would mention it for other people that need to seal bags.

The cable ties can even go in the PC without a problem. If you find a need to do so.

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