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How do I learn more about Native American Church?
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I would like to study the Native American Church and its beliefs. Is there any good books or anything I’m genuinely interested in what they believe it’s not just peyote. Although I do believe that mescaline cactus has an old school type of vibe. I’m also interested in Santo Daime church but I would like to understand the meaning behind the trip. I’m just going to a place I don’t understand I feel the need to improve my own shamanism and would like to be around a pro just to understand. I would dedicate my life to these plants without a doubt but I don’t understand the use besides recreation.


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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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Here's a directory of their churches, maybe that can help you find a representative in your area:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050308162749/http://www.utah-nac.org/nacindex.html

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Thanks I might try and contact them at some point I don’t currently have a car. I am really interested in learning there beliefs I used to attend a Unitarian Universalist church but I don’t strongly agree with any religion I have studied.


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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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They'll probably want to hear about your Vision Quest so if you haven't done that you might want to do that first.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Sometimes I just start shaking a rattle. seriously

holding out for the shaman, at least a bit, when talk was all superficial

I wish I had a rattle, it's at my ex's, a powerful tool there

I complain they talk too much, then see I'm worse in my own head

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: syncro]
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syncro said:
when talk was all superficial




40 days is a bit excessive for a vision quest I think but apparently that's what Jesus did, and afterwards talking was everything.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: Buster_Brown]
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There was a time when I took words in need, world's truth paths in ways I could absorb. Then for a long time I did not read much.

Word volume can be overwhelming but also, I think, a potent practice in its time.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: syncro]
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Words may not be requisite in a machine that is sef-aware, which begs the question for whom the machine serves.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Or the nature of the creator.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: syncro]
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If the creator didn't give free-will things wouldn't be such a mess.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Can I fly my mountain into the eye of the needle? I suppose, if remade. This be of one mind stuff. So much seems to oppose it. I guess that is natural to power.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: syncro]
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I am unfamiliar with the theory of 'One Mind'


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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: Buster_Brown]
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:cool: I'm running into devilish stuff today. Not supposed to at the new year juncture. That's what I get for watching a scary movie.

The lunar eclipse some weeks ago - with my background I do not expose myself to them. It was at night so I thought just to sleep, but lay awake and thought I wanted to explore the shadow. I don't astral travel fully in the way I think it should be, but with my mind I thought to go out. not saying it was anything more than that

Venturing through the dark wood, I met a shaman, painted black as if covered in ash. Now this guy, out at night in the eclipse, in his ancient get-up, I thought he was up to no good.

We postured at bit and then were talking some. He repeated as if giving me an incantation of sorts that seems useful but I don't trust using, though I did a little. I don't actually consider him bad or a danger to me now, I like to think of him as an associate in friendship, though wary.

I don't mean to say i think shamans in general are bad at all. I met one in the physical, a young lakota. That guy had so much passion in the spirit.

Shit I just remembered. The ghost shaman I should have given something in return. I guess I kind of did of myself like he did. But maybe I will put out some tobacco. Can a ghost shaman use tobacco? I'm not being facetious. :smile:

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: syncro]
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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Hmm, I didn't think of him as a hungry ghost. Could be.


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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: syncro]
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Hungry ghosts lack affection. Come visit me in Florida. You'll find your cell most disagreeable, poor food, bugs and no running water. A week with me and you will be a changed man.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Even the subway ghost shows some affection after he teaches Sam to use the telekinesis, saying, "You did it! Way to go kid."

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: syncro]
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Looks like I have to get my tarot deck and pull a card and see what it says.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Okay, I shuffled 3 times, now we just need to know the question.

What question would you like to ask the magic deck?

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: Buster_Brown]
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I've consulted the I Ching occasionally. I don't really like doing the oracle stuff. Do you have them answer a question more than once to confirm, or only once?

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? *DELETED* [Re: syncro]
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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: WhoManBeing]
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If surfers can do it, so can we.:mushroom2:

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: syncro]
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syncro said:
I've consulted the I Ching occasionally. I don't really like doing the oracle stuff. Do you have them answer a question more than once to confirm, or only once?


But rather than put fate to oracles, I try to make for the wish-fulfilling tree.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: syncro]
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Bradford Hatcher correlates tarot with the Yijing

https://www.hermetica.info/Tarot.htm

He has extensive online resources

https://www.hermetica.info/

I'll get to the rest of your question in a bit.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? *DELETED* [Re: WhoManBeing]
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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: WhoManBeing]
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Thankyou for your contribution.

Will you ask a question of the magic deck?

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: WhoManBeing]
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"How can I help you?"

Great, a question, I just pick a card and trust in providence...

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: WhoManBeing]
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Were the killings recent? Some family members want to go to SA for such a retreat, having little or no exposure to psychedelics. I feel a bit reluctant for them.

Edited by syncro (12/31/21 06:45 PM)

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Post your mailing address so we can send you dollars.

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Coyote magic.

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=corporate+avenger


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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: thirtygoats]
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I always thought that prison is a state of mind. I would actually rather be in jail or prison high than sober at work or in society but I think I need to stop using dangerous downers like benzodiazepines. I heard there’s Native American ways to rid your body of the white mans toxins. Although my datura seeds pretty toxic too I think anyway.


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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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So many bad things have happened to the Native Americans like the trail of tears and in Colorado there was the Sand Creek Massacre and in another state the Wounded Knee Massacre. It’s really messed up when you look at the history of what an invader to this country did to the original people. It’s similar to nazi stuff they just take over and don’t respect anyone. They killed the buffalo I think it’s wrong and would like to help Native Americans anyway I can. I feel in debt for what has happened. I want to watch this movie called I Will Fight No More Forever its about Native Americans but I can’t seem to find it.


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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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:flowstone:

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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CaptainTrips420 said:
I want to watch this movie called I Will Fight No More Forever its about Native Americans but I can’t seem to find it.


You can watch the full movie here: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4tchf0

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Re: How do I learn more about Native American Church? [Re: MindScaper]
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Classic :thumbup:


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