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Church Of Hallucinagens
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We should start one like TheMadConductor suggested. Like he said they have also been a large part of my life and spirituality.


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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: ShroomOmatic]
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I'm in, but only as long as we scam the world out of millions and millions of dollars while we are at it.


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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: LazyCrash]
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we don't need to start a church, we just need to all get together and declare a common belief...

of course that is the tricky part


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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: dr0mni]
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aint there some rule that if a certain part of people report that they are (insert name here) religion on there census then the government recognizes it as a religion. i thought i heard about that last census cause of people putting down jedi. if it is like that then it can be "officially recognized".

then if we get a good magician to walk on water and hypnotize people into thinking he fed thousands with a loaf of bread and some fish intestines and call him the son of mycelium and we eat his flesh and drink his blood for our holy communion. and then we get some good story tellers to fill in the blanks for our soon to be best selling book of all time. but all this requires us to shun all religions while stealing their holidays (to make the transition seem "not that bad").

of course we probably need to make a holy quest of some sort, lets call it the quest for the holy mushroom that only grows in volcanos and has specks of gold (aka vermiculite) on it.then maybe just maybe we can exploit the masses to give us 10% of there gross income or they will burn in the fiery hells of a bad trip.
just an idea.


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In the belly of the Leviathan, one can either despair and perish, or be cheerful and persevere.-Dean Koontz

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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: ShroomOmatic]
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the word "hallucinogen" implies something that causes people to see or experience that which is not real, places emphasis on the physical substances and not the experience, and doesn't say anything about beliefs or goals, other than the consumption of psychedelic drugs.

i think too many of us are a little preoccupied with these drugs. note the "trippy music" and "trippy art" that is so popular here. i don't give a damn whether it's "trippy" or not! is it quality? likewise with spirituality.


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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: wilshire]
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alright how bout church of higher knowledge


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In the belly of the Leviathan, one can either despair and perish, or be cheerful and persevere.-Dean Koontz

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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: wilshire]
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wilshire said:
i don't give a damn whether it's "trippy" or not! is it quality? likewise with spirituality.


Yes! Exactly! A machine can make a random tie-dyed patterns...


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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: dr0mni]
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The Temple of the True Inner Light based in NYC uses DPT as a sacrament to "allow direct communication with spirit forms and this communication provides the source of their theology".

Temple of the True Inner Light

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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: Metasyn]
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But unlike the Temple of True Inner Light we shouldn't be so dogmatically Dvaita.

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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: dr0mni]
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dr0mni said:
we don't need to start a church, we just need to all get together and declare a common belief...

of course that is the tricky part


Agree


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: ShroomOmatic]
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Organization of beliefs (religion) causes hierarchy, and thus corruption.

I say we keep it a sacred ritual. Maybe a holiday.

National Get KrUnK Day.


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As the life of a candle,
my wick will burn out.
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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: psyka]
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hallucinogens are catalystic to your thinking and perception with diverse effects. not a deity or anything to be worshipped.


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Be nice to people in general. Even if you don't like them.

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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
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nothing should be worshipped


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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: dr0mni]
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dr0mni said:
Yes! Exactly! A machine can make a random tie-dyed patterns...


There's already a machine creating random algorithms creating fractal and geometrically symmetrical designs.

Check it out: http://www.electricsheep.org/


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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: Fospher]
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^^^ That's awesome!

I'm putting that on my computer right now.

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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: ShroomOmatic]
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It still would be against the law to use drugs even if you were a part of this religion.

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Re: Church Of Hallucinagens [Re: Redstorm]
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This article may interest some of you-


High Court Hears Hallucinogenic Tea Case
By GINA HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer

Tuesday, November 1, 2005

The Supreme Court debated Tuesday whether to let a small congregation in New Mexico worship with hallucinogenic tea, the first religious freedom dispute under Chief Justice John Roberts.

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor seemed skeptical of the Bush administration's claim that the tea can be banned, but she may not be around to vote in the case.

About 130 members of a Brazil-based church have been in a long-running dispute with federal agents who seized their tea in 1999. The hoasca tea, which contains an illegal drug known as DMT, is considered sacred to members of O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao do Vegetal.

The Bush administration contends the tea is not only illegal but potentially dangerous.

The Supreme Court has dealt with religious drug cases before. Justices ruled 15 years ago that states could criminalize the use of peyote by American Indians. But Congress changed the law to allow the sacramental use in tribal services of peyote, a bitter-tasting cactus that includes the hallucinogen mescaline.

O'Connor pointed out during Tuesday's argument that Congress changed the rules. She interrupted the Bush administration lawyer in his opening statement and peppered him with difficult questions.

Other justices also seemed concerned by the government's claim that an exception could be made for peyote, but not for hoasca tea.

"That is a rather rough problem under the First Amendment," said Justice Stephen Breyer.

Justice Antonin Scalia, who wrote the 1990 peyote opinion, said tribes have been using peyote ? "a demonstration you can make an exception without the sky falling."

The man nominated to replace the retiring O'Connor, Samuel Alito, has dealt with a variety of religion cases as an appeals court judge. He wrote a 1999 opinion allowing Muslim police officers to keep their beards and voted that year to permit a government holiday display containing a creche, a menorah, a banner celebrating diversity and secular symbols of the season.

Alito could be called on to vote in the religious tea case with a new argument session, if justices are divided 4-4 when O'Connor leaves the court. Her votes only count in cases decided while she is still on the bench. This case could take months to decide.

"It's not clear how he would rule," said Anthony Picarello, president of The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty. "Normally religious freedom cases are tricky to predict. This one is especially tricky."

Bush administration lawyer Edwin Kneedler told justices that the drug not only violates a federal narcotics law, but a treaty in which the United States promised to block the importation of drugs including dimethyltryptamine, also known as DMT. The hoasca tea had been imported from Brazil.

He said other countries could back off the international war-on-drugs, citing lax U.S. enforcement of the treaty. Kneedler noted that the peyote used by Native Americans is grown in America and used here.

The herbal hoasca brew is used in communion by the church, which has a blend of Christian beliefs and South American traditions. Members believe they can understand God only by drinking the tea, which is consumed twice a month at four-hour ceremonies.

The Supreme Court argument was lively, with the new chief justice a particularly active questioner. Roberts asked tough questions of both sides. He suggested that the Bush administration was demanding too much, a "zero tolerance approach."

Church members want "just the right to practice their religious faith as Congress guaranteed," said Nancy Hollander, the lawyer for the church that has a congregation in Santa Fe, N.M.


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