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cupevampe
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What about the Sacred swiss church of Mushrooms?
#5440816 - 03/25/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Check out this website http://www.sacred-mushroom-church.ch
What do you think about it? The whole idea, i guess is to make it big enough to stand up against the stupid drug laws... dunno if it would work in court but it might be a good idea... what do u guys think?
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Re: What about the Sacred swiss church of Mushrooms? [Re: cupevampe]
#5440857 - 03/25/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I seriously doubt it would hold up in US court.
I believe US drug laws are written in a way that, if order for a religious sacrament to contain an illegal drug the sacrament had to be established before the substance became illegal. Thats why native Americans can legally use peyote.
If that that religion would hold up in court I think I'm going to start my own religion. The Sacred church of LSD.
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Re: What about the Sacred swiss church of Mushrooms? [Re: hug_the_man]
#5441447 - 03/25/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Timothy Leary's League for Spiritual Discovery didn't cut it in 1960s America, so I'm afraid you're outa gas
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Re: What about the Sacred swiss church of Mushrooms? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#5441984 - 03/25/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here's the thing, everyone starts up psychedelic churches, psychedelis go from being dangerous drugs to religious drugs.
drug arrests begin becoming religious persecution. The news starts talking about it. Joe American starts to think.... hmmmm you know that ain't right what the governmt's doin.
Change happens.
It's better that a psychedelic revolution happen through CHURCHES and RELIGIONS even if they are new....... (and they have to be serious about it) than through a bunch of people that hate war.
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Edited by leery11 (03/25/06 07:20 PM)
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Re: What about the Sacred swiss church of Mushrooms? [Re: leery11]
#5443634 - 03/26/06 09:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd rather have to use psychedelics in an illegal manner, than to resort to pretending that I use them use them for some pseudo-religious spiritual reason. The whole idea that I have to mask my drug use as prayer to make it legitimate makes me sick. My mind is my own and I choose to explore it as I see fit. I do not choose to lie about what I'm doing. I do not choose to call being high, being in touch with "god".
What I like to do is chemically alter the way my mind works through the use of psychedelic drugs, in order to have an altered or skewed perception of reality.
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leery11
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Re: What about the Sacred swiss church of Mushrooms? [Re: Ekstaza]
#5444617 - 03/26/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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And you deserve the freedom to have that view.
I agree. People deserve freedom of choice. This is not America. Not the America we were sold through propoganda. How can this not be apparent that this is not the free man's world, the free man's utopia? The ideal of liberty and justice for all is raped and turned into a whore. But. People also deserve to be able to use them for religious purposes, and that is the only realistic way to get them "legalized" once that happens....... more lenient laws will follow until the eradication of all drug prohibition. But........... this requires monumental changes in the way the world is "run" such so that the world isn't entirely even "run" anymore.
Realistically legal weed is the most America will see in the near future barring spiirtual revolution. Recreational use is not going to be viewed positively, but a spiritual revolution involving psychedelics may.
You don't have to pretend. There is spirituality in simply sitting back and enjoying the moment.... psycehdelics are liberating and however it is that you've come to enjoy them......... I'd say there's probably a spiritual overtone to it somewhere. Unless you just want to get mad fucked up and they bring chaos to your life.
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Edited by leery11 (03/26/06 04:59 PM)
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Re: What about the Sacred swiss church of Mushrooms? [Re: leery11]
#5446344 - 03/27/06 05:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I generally reject the word "spiritual" or any similar words for the fact that I deny the existence of a soul or spirit.
I guess I'd say that psychedelics allow me to feel mystified for a time. However I do not misinterpret the experience as more than that.
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Re: What about the Sacred swiss church of Mushrooms? [Re: Ekstaza]
#5447806 - 03/27/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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What do you make of the brain being wired to experience such things in the first place through dedicated religious practice with or without hallucinagens.... such as through devout meditation, shamanistic music rituals, chanting..... dream work, yoga, etc?
It's a way of looking into yourself and has nothing to do with faith in anything other than your own interactions with the symbolic world. "Spirit" or no spirit doesn't matter, it's up to you.... but I'd still translate those experiences as "spiritual" or "mystical" or "transcendent" in any sense of the world.... as the world only exists because we perceive it, and psychedelics hack into that perception.
I guess it's all how you define spirituality..... but as far as I am concerned an atheist could be spiritual.
I guess to be spiritual by which you could say balanced or happy or peaceful or understanding you have to assume that something is true..... its your own conclusions that are most important. Psychedelis can help with that as well as tinker with sanity.
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Edited by leery11 (03/27/06 02:40 PM)
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