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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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Omicron makes 70x more virus in the upper respiratory tract 24-48 hours after reinfection than delta or the original virus.

https://www.med.hku.hk/en/news/press/20211215-omicron-sars-cov-2-infection?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=press_release


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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So this thing is just gonna blow over?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
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It’s gonna be an interesting three weeks. It’s not gonna last long


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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She'll blow over this whole covid thing will blow over eventually just gotta keep praying like heck :sadyes:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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Leave it to Dr Campbell to break it down rationally: We are being rammed with a virus with an R0 of 3-5, virulent like smallpox, and the case doubling rate seems to be 2-3 days. Merry Christmas.




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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Do we know yet how much a previous Omicron infection protects against the other variants? I'm guessing about as much as the reverse.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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It will absolutely serve as a selfadministering vaccine, what bothers me is how damaging is it to the organism and society itself?


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said:
Do we know yet how much a previous Omicron infection protects against the other variants? I'm guessing about as much as the reverse.



If you don’t have any previous immunity, omicron isn’t going to do much to protect you from all the other strains. If you have had a previous infection or vaccine then omicron will broaden your immunity


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
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Get ready for the next lockdown

Coffeeshops are essentials stores I hope. Planning on spacecaking my way trhough the Christmas holidays


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tripsurfer]
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Tripsurfer said:
Get ready for the next lockdown

Coffeeshops are essentials stores I hope. Planning on spacecaking my way trhough the Christmas holidays




I advice you to buy that space cake today.

Coffee shops are "essential" perhaps but, you won't feel that way if 1 in 5 people there has Covid. At that point you want to be at home with your space cake, your kerststol and cider not GAF until it blows over.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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Reinfections per capital are occurring at essentially the same rate as infections in the general population in Denmark. 10% of all infections are reinfections and 10% of the population has had a confirmed case of covid during the pandemic. There appears to be no protection whatsoever if you’ve already had covid.


This article says the British put effectiveness of previous infection at 19%. Also hearing more about the severity profile being switched and younger people are more affected than older people.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/uncertainty-swirls-around-omicron-covid-19-severity

Here’s the British data for immune escape
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We find strong evidence of immune evasion, both from natural infection, where the risk of reinfection is 5.41 (95% CI: 4.87-6.00) fold higher for Omicron than for Delta, and from vaccine-induced protection. Our VE estimates largely agree with those from UKHSA’s TNCC study (11) and predictions from predicting VE from neutralising antibody titres (4,14), suggesting very limited remaining protection against symptomatic infection afforded by two doses of AZ, low protection afforded by two doses of Pfizer, but moderate to high (55-80%) protection in people boosted with an mRNA vaccine.
Our estimate of the hazard ratio for reinfection relative to Delta also supports previous analysis of reinfection risk in South Africa (15). Prior to Omicron, the SIREN cohort study of UK healthcare workers estimated that SARS-CoV-2 infection gave 85% protection against reinfection over 6 months (16), or a relative risk of infection of 0.15 compared with those with no prior infection. Our hazard ratio estimate would suggest the relative risk of reinfection has risen to 0.81 [95%CI: 0.73-1.00] (i.e. remaining protection of 19% [95%CI: 0-27%]) against Omicron.
We find no evidence (for both risk of hospitalisation attendance and symptom status) of Omicron having different severity from Delta, though data on hospitalisations are still very limited.




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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/18/21 09:44 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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I see they're putting up a christmas tree like every place Omicron touches :sad:

foookeeng, and people at at the peak of having had it with mandemic measures.


Meanwhile in Holland, schools close a week early, extra long christmas holiday, tonight theres a press conference with our prime minister Kutte who will probably implement a strict lockdown, possibly w/ curfew.


Tripsurfer, christmas song:




Ga je wiet maar halen joh, hebben is hebben, er zal wel een run op komen.



Koods, I hope Dr Campbell is right that hospitalizations and deaths are less because if there indeed like your article sggests is little difference and this thing clocks at R0 = 3-5, me oh my.

At that R0, you can wonder whether this strain has enhanced survivability outside of the body, with an african strain you might think so, and possibly could be airborne.

I mean how the f do you get R0 = 3-5 in a society already socially distancing etc?


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Edited by Asante (12/18/21 09:51 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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They should only do lockdowns if it becomes clear the hospitals are going to reach capacity without intervention.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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The Dutch have a half paralyzed, half spastic goverment, on one end, no response, on the other end, total overreaction.

They'll botch this too.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
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Koods, I hope Dr Campbell is right that hospitalizations and deaths are less because if there indeed like your article sggests is little difference and this thing clocks at R0 = 3-5, me oh my.




I’m not buying it. This analysis of the hospitalizations seems really contrived. If exponential growth in hospitalization seen here continues the way cases have over the past week, they are going to surpass previous waves. I really don’t understand how people are looking at this and ignoring the trajectory. The distance between dots in the past few days is bigger than anywhere else on this graph, which means hospitalizations are growing faster.



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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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Every single day is supposed to be Christmas you savages way to ruin everything

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
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Koods, I hope Dr Campbell is right that hospitalizations and deaths are less because if there indeed like your article sggests is little difference and this thing clocks at R0 = 3-5, me oh my.




I’m not buying it. This analysis of the hospitalizations seems really contrived. If exponential growth in hospitalization seen here continues the way cases have over the past week, they are going to surpass previous waves. I really don’t understand how people are looking at this and ignoring the trajectory. The distance between dots in the past few days is bigger than anywhere else on this graph, which means hospitalizations are growing faster.






Point taken, and that is South Africa,  average age 27, while in the US its 38 and in my country, 42. That will significantly tip the scales.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Baby_Hitler said:
Do we know yet how much a previous Omicron infection protects against the other variants? I'm guessing about as much as the reverse.



If you don’t have any previous immunity, omicron isn’t going to do much to protect you from all the other strains. If you have had a previous infection or vaccine then omicron will broaden your immunity



So there's really no upside to Omicron, then.


Shit.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Omicron is going to save the world


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Omicron will provide you with protection against serious illness from other variants.


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