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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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There was a herd of them at a Cheesecake Factory last night demanding service after pushing trough the line and taking tables for themselves. Refused to leave when they wouldn’t provide their proof of vaccination and some we’re arrested. Then the herd grazed on over to the police station and moo’ed a lot

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1470956991648571394?s=21


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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feevers said:
Time and time again I've found that no one actually thinks they're part of a herd, and lots of them like to accuse everyone else of being part of a herd



Right but I'm not part of that herd.

I haven't seen a single other person in this thread arguing against it for the exact same reasons I am.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
There was a herd of them at a Cheesecake Factory last night demanding service after pushing trough the line and taking tables for themselves. Refused to leave when they wouldn’t provide their proof of vaccination and some we’re arrested. Then the herd grazed on over to the police station and moo’ed a lot

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1470956991648571394?s=21



They're warriors fighting bravely and selflessly for the right to demand a private business serve them cheesecake

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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I haven't really kept up with this thread at all....

So I'm kinda jumping into the middle of the chit chat here....



I got the vax recently, finally....I went with J&J (there's a gathering I'm going to attend around the end of this month and I wouldn't be fully vaccinated in time if I went with one of the other vaccines, and I need to be to attend the event, so I chose the J&J).

I actually experienced some pronounced symptoms/side effects that set in within a few hours after. Could partially be placebo, but regardless I was definitely feeling off/sick for a bit there....By around 5-ish hours after getting the shot I started to feel exactly like I do when I start getting the "flu". Just a sensation I feel through out my body. My body ached and felt sore and a bit weak (similar feeling to opioid W/D), I felt chills/cold and was shivering a bit at times (also similar feeling to opioid W/D), I experienced some mild nausea/discomfort in my gut and my bowels were a bit "upset"/grumbly for a short period of time, my headspace felt a bit cloudy/sick feeling. I ended up with a bad headache too, but I'm prone to headaches in general so that could have been triggered by something else.

For a bit there I was straight up feeling just like I do when I have the flu...I was curled up in a ball under blankets shivering/shaking cold, not able to get warm, while my body hurt/ached. Very classic "flu-like" symptoms for me. Made me just wanna get super stoned, curl up under blankets, and veg out.

The day/morning after though most of those symptoms faded...still felt some aches in the body and feeling slightly "off"/sick feeling. And my arm was slightly sore at the site of the shot.






Something I was randomly wondering about....

What happens if someone becomes infected with the virus (unknowingly) the day before, the day of, or during the days immediately after getting the vaccine? I'm curious how that plays out? Since it takes time for the vax to become effective. What happens if someone gets the vax while they are actually infected (unknowingly) with the virus?







-OM

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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Jokeshopbeard said:
morrowasted said:
Jokeshopbeard said:
are you telling me you do nothing for selfish reasons?



I don't. They used to be. Now it is purely a matter of good fortune and convenience that what is best for me and what is best for other people come into alignment as frequently as they do for me.

Not trying to throw myself a parade here, but if it really blows your mind that much that many people really do expend as much or more of their effort behaving in the best interests of others rather than their own... You might just wanna take a deeper look at that. For many this is mostly thrust upon them via parenthood, but every parent makes choices

By the way, it is, by definition, selfish to act out of fear/self preservation rather than compassion. Step away from the mental gymnasium



Ok Jesus/Mother Theresa/Father Maximilian Kolbe. I'm sure your sainthood will soon be descending upon you from the heavens, and churches and shit will be named after you for your holy ability to be completely selfless.

I think you've meaning mixed with selflessness myself, but hey ho, semantics are a bitch.

I've zero fear and an absolute shit ton of compassion compared to most BTW. It just doesn't work the way you think it does (or think it should). If only you knew the time and energy I've put into helping people down on their luck in my life. There's no self preservation in my motivations whatsoever; just a desire to see (and hopefully help create) a better world than this utter shithole full of corruption and brainless morons that we live in now.


"I see myself as being compassionate in many ways and that negates the consequences of other things I do out of negligence or hubris"

The whole passive aggressive, "you are holier than thou" crap is a simple ad hominem. The truth does not depend on how full of myself I feel

We are cool man, I never give anyone shit irl for not being vaccinated. Seriously. I don't really give anyone shit for anything at all. And I regularly interact with people who have been involved in shootings etc.  Do as thou wilt. But you get to know what I actually think  due to the nature of our relationship

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: JohnnyTripsAlot]
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JohnnyTripsAlot said:
koods said:
Really? That’s nine years before Covid. What’s the relevance of that article to covid?



Exactly.  Ivermectin won its creators a Nobel prize years before because of its effectiveness treating viral infections in HUMANS.  But yet you and your moron friends don't care about that.  You see it in animal form and automatically think that means it can only have one use.

AND AGAIN IM NOT ARGUING THAT IT SHOULD BE USED TO TREAT COVID, THE POJT IS THAT YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS AND NOWHERE NEAR AS KNOWLEDGEABLE AS YOU CLAIM TO BE.



I know exactly what ivermectin is used for. It is for treating nematodes and mites. There is absolutely nothing in your article about using it for viral diseases. Go ahead search the article for the word “virus” or “viral.”


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: openmind] * 2
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If you got infected at the same time you got vaccinated, nothing would really happen. If you got vaccinated a few days before, it could possibly help you clear your infection earlier since you’d start making antibodies earlier in the infection.

Your reaction was pretty strong for a first dose. Did you have covid already?


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted] * 2
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morrowasted said:
We are cool man, I never give anyone shit irl for not being vaccinated. Seriously. I don't really give anyone shit for anything at all. And I regularly interact with people who have been involved in shootings etc.  Do as thou wilt. But you get to know what I actually think  due to the nature of our relationship



I appreciate that man. I know I've been having some quite passionate disagreements with people I never expected to disagree with in this thread, but I hope that anyone involved can see it as such; simply a disagreement between friends.

It's amazing to me how divisive this subject has become - I certainly never imagined it going this way - but I think all of us here who are taking very firm stances on the subject reside in the most divisive country in the world, so not really a massive surprise there after all.

I like mature disagreements. They help one to learn a lot IMO.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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The booster shot is effecting me more than my second dose which I wasn't expecting. Basically have felt tired for last two days and bunch of stomach pains. My doink didn't blow off tho.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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As I mentioned previously, Koods you have successfully convinced me that I do not need this vaccine, that mandates are atrocities and that most of the people who push these things on the rest of us, are totally full of shit. 

Thank you for your time.  Hope the next booster is enough for you!


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: JohnnyTripsAlot]
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Quote:
Your patients don't need you in the middle of the night.



this is patently false. If they didn't need me they'd go home. Many of them choose to go home even though they do need me (and the rest of their treatment team). I don't work night shifts anymore tho

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: JohnnyTripsAlot]
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JohnnyTripsAlot said:
As I mentioned previously, Koods you have successfully convinced me that I do not need this vaccine, that mandates are atrocities and that most of the people who push these things on the rest of us, are totally full of shit. 

Thank you for your time.  Hope the next booster is enough for you!



Some people might say that manner of thinking in the face of medical facts is full blown retarded but thanks for your time.

Edited by CHeifM4sterDiezL (12/15/21 02:50 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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Jokeshopbeard said:
I appreciate that man. I know I've been having some quite passionate disagreements with people I never expected to disagree with in this thread, but I hope that anyone involved can see it as such; simply a disagreement between friends.

It's amazing to me how divisive this subject has become - I certainly never imagined it going this way - but I think all of us here who are taking very firm stances on the subject reside in the most divisive country in the world, so not really a massive surprise there after all.

I like mature disagreements. They help one to learn a lot IMO.



I could easily see myself having reacted to all of this in a different way had it not been for the, well, the fact that it quickly and totally upended my professional life. At the beginning of the conversation I had a lot of skeptical things to say. When the July wave came, I... Learned a lesson in humility

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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Edit: @ cheif

Your description of the effects of your booster are worse than what I experienced when actually infected w covid. You can call me full blown retarded but I've had 3 less experimental shots than you and I feel fantastic lol


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Edited by JohnnyTripsAlot (12/15/21 02:57 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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koods said:
If you got infected at the same time you got vaccinated, nothing would really happen. If you got vaccinated a few days before, it could possibly help you clear your infection earlier since you’d start making antibodies earlier in the infection.

Your reaction was pretty strong for a first dose. Did you have covid already?




I see. That makes sense. That's something I was wondering about.


As far as I know I have not had covid already, unless I caught it at some point and was asymptomatic & oblivious about it :shrug: .

The reaction I had did seem stronger than what most experience....I talked to my friends that have the vax and they said they felt pretty fine & normal after, perhaps a bit tired feeling at the most.












feevers said:
They're warriors fighting bravely and selflessly for the right to demand a private business serve them cheesecake




:lol::rolleyes:


I tend to avoid watching such drama, but I skimmed through a few of those videos and those folks are ridiculous.

Like for real!?








-OM

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: JohnnyTripsAlot] * 1
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JohnnyTripsAlot said:
Edit: @ cheif

Your description of the effects of your booster are worse than what I experienced when actually infected w covid. You can call me full blown retarded but I've had 3 less experimental shots than you and I feel fantastic lol



Last time I had covid I nearly ended up in hospital and it was way wayyy worse than any flu I ever had. There were points I thought I was actually going to die and was seconds away from calling for an ambulance because there's no way I could have drove in that state. The booster side effects feel like a mild hangover where I had drink some coffee to get moving with the day :sadyes:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: openmind] * 1
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Quote:
:lol::rolleyes:


I tend to avoid watching such drama, but I skimmed through a few of those videos and those folks are ridiculous.

Like for real!?





Yeah looking through the comments and it looks like they planned it in advance, they had already eaten at the food court and they busted in, tried to cut the line to just make as big of a scene as possible.

This is the america now. Stupidity is becoming a cherished badge of honor

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers] * 1
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Yeah that cheesecake nonsense was fucking stupid regardless of what you believe.. just a bunch of assholes ruining things for decent folks.:facepalm:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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Saw this in one of the comments:

"What these folks did was the equivalent of a 5 star general taking the hill without cover while the infantry hides in foxholes. Their courage and self sacrifice should inspire all."

I've seen this comment now in 3 different anti-vax things over the past week, each time with tons of likes and shares. These people literally think that not making the drive to walgreens to get a shot that's saving millions of lives is making them battle heroes.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers] * 1
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5 star general. In the confederate army. History is not going to look kindly on these people.


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