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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

[Re: koods]
#27581251 - 12/14/21 04:40 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

koods said:

Lol what? On what planet is 60 million a tiny population, cause it certainly isn’t earth. South Africa is the 24th largest country. France is 22nd and the UK is 21st

Great dodge of the question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

[Re: Asante]
#27581261 - 12/14/21 04:45 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

we should all stop washing our hands after wiping our ass because there are no sinks in a lot of the world

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koods
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

[Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27581263 - 12/14/21 04:48 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Which countries are you referring to?

Most of the largest population countries have enough doses for their entire population. China, Russia and Indonesia are the major exceptions. Russia and China have their own vaccines so I don’t know what their problem is. China controls covid in other ways, tho.

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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

[Re: feevers]
#27581264 - 12/14/21 04:49 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

feevers said:

we should all stop washing our hands after wiping our ass because there are no sinks in a lot of the world

Exactly.

We need to stop eating because people in other places don’t have food

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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

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#27581269 - 12/14/21 04:55 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

koods said:

Which countries are you referring to?

Well, the first two on the list are pretty huge (1.5 billion+) and also pretty third world. Then there's the next fourteen, which each have over a hundred million people, which are also pretty fucking third world.

That's about half the total global population accounted for, living in countries where they'd take many years to get fully vaxxed (which they never will).

There's simply no way these places will fit into the model that sees the world vaccinated.

Are they all terrible pieces of shit for it too?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

[Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27581275 - 12/14/21 05:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

That's about half the total global population accounted for, living in countries where they'll take years to get fully vaxxed (which they never will).

Which countries are you referring to?

More than half the worlds population has been vaccinated already. 1.5 billion doses are manufactured per month. Stop using poor people as an excuse for you being afraid to get vaccinated, dude

Edited by koods (12/14/21 05:07 PM)

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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

[Re: koods]
#27581276 - 12/14/21 05:04 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population

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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

[Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27581282 - 12/14/21 05:08 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Which countries are you referring to specifically?

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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

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#27581285 - 12/14/21 05:11 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Now you're just being annoying for the sake of it.

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trees

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

[Re: Jokeshopbeard]

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#27581292 - 12/14/21 05:29 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

koods said:

Stop using poor people as an excuse for you being afraid to get vaccinated, dude

Poor people without access was used to dismantle your flawed argument that anti vaxers are responsible for everything and the varients. Fucking owned koods. You lost that argument hard.

The fact that anti-vaxers are no longer entirely responsible for varients means theyre only really responsible for themselves now. Youve said it many times yourself koods, the vaccines are to protect the unvaxed. Well then, you dont have anything to worry about koods and feevers, since youre on the boosters for life i guess. Morrow says hes happy to accept new covid patients as its profitable for him, however i dont think that perc in business will last forever as its not like we have an unlimited supply of unvaxed, non-previously infected and immunocompromised, and again clearly the varients have a tendency to get weaker. Still, almost no deaths from omicron.

If JSB caves and goes to get a shot to make you all shut up, then to stay true to the act he has to continue getting the shots, for the rest of his life. Very few people will commit to that. So why start with 1 shot now that wont even last half a year? Especially when you already had covid and recovered without dying.

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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

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#27581295 - 12/14/21 05:37 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

trees said:

Youve said it many times yourself koods, the vaccines are to protect the unvaxed. Well then, you dont have anything to worry about koods and feevers, since youre on the boosters for life i guess.

Precisely. I don't understand why people are still pushing for everyone to follow the herd since the herd is now vaccinated.

trees said:

Still, almost no deaths from omicron.

Amazing really isn't it? This thing is tearing through England like wildfire and they've only had one reported death from it...

Great post that one trees.

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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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koods
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#27581310 - 12/14/21 05:54 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

88% of the population has had at least one dose in the UK. Almost nobody has been dying in the UK for months BECAUSE OF THE HIGH VACCINATION RATE :facepalm:

:facepalm:

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NotSheekle said
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trees

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[Re: koods]

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#27581314 - 12/14/21 05:57 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

What about the lack of deaths from omicron in the other half of the unvaxed world?

Youre always feigning ignorance and pretending you didnt see the hard questions

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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

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#27581317 - 12/14/21 06:01 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

trees said:

Youre always feigning ignorance and pretending you didnt see the hard questions

QFT.

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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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#27581322 - 12/14/21 06:04 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Feigning ignorance? I wrote this three weeks ago.

koods said:

I’ve been reading up on omicron and I can’t find a single mention of anyone dying from this variant and a lot of anecdotal evidence that it is only causing mild illness. People who have been infected are reporting “minimal symptoms.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/omicron-coronavirus-variant-cases-mild-south-africa-2021-11%3famp

Quote:

It may be it's highly transmissible, but so far the cases we are seeing are extremely mild," the chair of the South African Medical Association told The Guardian.

We need to know more but there is something to be argued that we shouldn’t be suppressing a variant that doesn’t cause serious illness

One thing to keep in mind it likely evolved in a single immunocompromised person over the period of months, yet it didn’t kill them during that period. It would have a lot of mutations which are highly tuned to that one immunocompromised person, but it may not be as fit in someone with a normally functioning immune response.

The more I read about this the more I think it’s a big nothing burger

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#27581358 - 12/14/21 06:28 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

The delta variant accounts for the vast majority of cases in the US, and it will be months before it gets replaced by omicron. If you want to give omicron a real advantage over delta, get vaccinated. The vaccine will help select delta out of circulation

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season)

[Re: koods]
#27581364 - 12/14/21 06:30 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

koods said:

get vaccinated.

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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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#27581486 - 12/14/21 08:38 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Has anyone seen any data comparing the mutations of omicron to the delta variant? From what I understand, omicron is descended from the beta variant, and omicron and deltas common ancestor is at least a year and a half ago. Omicron may be more resistant to delta immunity than it is to the original virus.

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NotSheekle said
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#27581531 - 12/14/21 09:21 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Jokeshopbeard said:

morrowasted said:

Anytime you choose to do something for selfish reasons, it is wrong in my book.

Not that I agree that it is a selfish act to choose to be unvaccinated in the world as it is today, but are you telling me you do nothing for selfish reasons?

I think, if one reflects honestly on the state of the human condition, then almost everything anyone does is done for selfish reasons.

I don't. They used to be. Now it is purely a matter of good fortune and convenience that what is best for me and what is best for other people come into alignment as frequently as they do for me.

Not trying to throw myself a parade here, but if it really blows your mind that much that many people really do expend as much or more of their effort behaving in the best interests of others rather than their own... You might just wanna take a deeper look at that. For many this is mostly thrust upon them via parenthood, but every parent makes choices

By the way, it is, by definition, selfish to act out of fear/self preservation rather than compassion. Step away from the mental gymnasium

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#27581538 - 12/14/21 09:27 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

The crazy part about the antivaxxers is they are in no way acting in their own self interest. They’re being assholes to themselves and everyone around them. Their behavior benefits nobody.

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