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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees] * 1
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trees said:
If we had mass rapid at home testing for infection and antibodies, then this would be 10000X better. Thats all we ever needed. Gov'ts should have put all their money on sending out mass tests in the mail.  But instead they obvipusly are going for the money - boosters

Pro vax mandaters dont understand how money is driving this bi-partisan crisis.

The pro mandate vaxers would instantly be the stupidest worst most deplorable crowd we have on Earth currently if mass free of cost rapid testing was a thing.

Why would you force someone with natural anti bodies to get a booster if they could proove immunity on repeat with tests?

All vax pushers must shift their attention to the Govt to make mass tests, and not push the new world order of making a very few people insanely rich. By pushing the vax around, youre acting like their little gremlin minions helping to fill their coffers full of gold.


trees said:
Rapid tests can come down to less than $1 per test and yeah you could do it every day before work. It is certainly cheaper and less damaging to society and the economy the long run.

In your utopia you will need a booster 3x per year, and wear masks for the rest of your life. In a short 10 year period youll have accumulated a whopping 30 boosters in your body and youll have a mask tan. Happy about that? Makes you feel good doesnt it?


Not sure where you are seeing tests for less than $1? Every one I can find is $12 or $15 or more.

In a 10 year period, getting as many as 20 (not sure how you came up with 30) boosters. At a cost of ~$30/dose (currently the gov't is paying $15, but that's only for the first 100 million doses.)
20 boosters x $30 = $600

You want to instead take tests every 3 days. Using around 1,200 test kits in 10 years.
Let's assume these $1 test do exist, that's still twice the cost.

Who's coffers are being filled in that situation?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: SprewellSleeve] * 1
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Just answer this pro vaxers, its a simple YES or NO answer:

Are you cool with having 30 scheduled boosters per decade and wear a mask everywhere for the rest of your life?

Bottom line that is your ideal world that youve all been pushing and seemingly would love

So in a life time of 70 years youd have gotten 210 covid boosters and wore a mask  the whole way through. Man... FUCK THAT. Id leave society or shoot myself instead of live like a fucking zoo animal


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: foragedfungus]
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foragedfungus said:
Not sure where you are seeing tests for less than $1? Every one I can find is $12 or $15 or more.

In a 10 year period, getting as many as 20 (not sure how you came up with 30) boosters. At a cost of ~$30/dose (currently the gov't is paying $15, but that's only for the first 100 million doses.)
20 boosters x $30 = $600

You want to instead take tests every 3 days. Using around 1,200 test kits in 10 years.
Let's assume these $1 test do exist, that's still twice the cost.

Who's coffers are being filled in that situation?


The reason tests are still expensive is because they havent funded to mass produce them properly. They could have made them like piss tests costing single digit cents per test and send them out en mass using govt funds that were instead wasted


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees] * 1
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I don't wear a mask outside so your mask tan argument does not apply, 2 boosters a year sounds better than a test every 3 days. :shrug:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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That's not a simple yes or no question, but I'd suggest that you make it a poll if you want a simple yes or no answer. otherwise it'll take up lots of space with people trying to explain their answers since the question doesn't make sense by itself.

to better explain the idea of the future to you though, so you don't get scared about needles or dna eating microwave chips or whatever it is that strikes fear into your heart, the idea is to use measures like vaccination (a booster every 6 months or so for now) until prevalence is low enough for most people not to be at serious risk from community spread. You already don't have to wear a mask in places where the vaccination rate is high (because prevalence is low) unless you're in high exposure or high risk environment like a hospital, and even at a booster every 6 months, that's only 20 vaccinations over a decade, so it'd be unreasonable to ask you to get those extra 10 boosters. There's no need to shoot yourself, leave society, or live like a zoo animal over 10 unnecessary boosters in a decade or unnecessary mask use, so I'm not cool with what you're suggesting. It's an excessive amount of vaccination, and if we get spread under control and case counts get low enough, then we'd probably be fine with even less vaccination most of the time. We'll have to see how things change though.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: schmutzen]
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2 boosters a year sounds better than 2 cases of covid a year.


What is going to happen as I see it is that people get more and more tired with covid measures and more and more immune with subsequent vaccinations.

Then comes the time that the boostered majority is going "fuck all of this" and not do anything other than vaxxing to restrain the viral replication count.

At this point, the unvaxxed minority will be overwhelmingly exposed to Covid from all sides, because the vaxxer majority stops taking additional preparations, and they get covid again and again till they are too gimped by Covid to function.

And THEN, then antivaxxer immunity is 2 shots and several boosters behind, so they cant quickly catch up.

They'll fall like wheat before the reaper. I dont endorse that but I see that as a realistic possibility.

If you stray further and further from the herd, at a point you're no longer in it.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Again with the father to downsyndrome 5YO tone talking micro chips and fear. Youre useless. Its all speculation this "control the spread until its stable". You keep forgetting that vaxed folks can carry and spread covid to other vaxed folk who may even get hospitalized after 10 fresh jabs that will also wear off. That is not speculation. And 20 required vaccinations a decade is not cool with me, i wont do it. I know more than half the world wont tolerate that. You guys will ultimatley be the losing party in this battle as seen in the big picture of history, the good and moral always prevail.

For now i just think its fun to rustle your jimmies


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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:imout:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees] * 1
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I think the losing party are the thousands of free thinkers dying with tubes down their throat each day and the millions of elderly and immunocompromised people that even once vaccinated can't enjoy public life anymore without a statistically significant chance of severe sickness and death

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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Nobody on this planet can avoid contact with covid. Do you really believe that the number of weak folk suceptible to covid are unlimited? If kids growing up with repeat daily expoaure to covid, those horrible deaths will become less and less frequent.

Again to clarify, there are a limited number of adults in the world who can react to covid.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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trees said:
Again with the father to downsyndrome 5YO tone talking micro chips and fear. Youre useless. Its all speculation this "control the spread until its stable". You keep forgetting that vaxed folks can carry and spread covid to other vaxed folk who may even get hospitalized after 10 fresh jabs that will also wear off. That is not speculation. And 20 required vaccinations a decade is not cool with me, i wont do it. I know more than half the world wont tolerate that. You guys will ultimatley be the losing party in this battle as seen in the big picture of history, the good and moral always prevail.

For now i just think its fun to rustle your jimmies


I was wondering about the jimmy rustling. Your trolling still has a lot of room for improvement though, so don't get cocky. I don't think it's fair to compare yourself to a kid with down syndrome. They're high risk, and most of the people with down syndrome that I've seen have gotten their vaccinations when they were eligible, so they still have you beat on that front and they certainly don't deserve to be talked down to for doing the right thing.

also people can get covid multiple times, similar to a cold, and amazingly enough new people get born every day, so the virus will always have a naïve population to infect. fortunately you're argument can be saved if we vaccinate everybody and limit spread, which would make covid much more avoidable and the number of susceptible adults much smaller.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Its over buddy. Youll have to change your strategy to get any satisfaction out if this because nothing you say is worth anything to your case and your ideal utopia will never happen


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees] * 1
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trees said:
...the good and moral always prevail.

For now i just think its fun to rustle your jimmies


In what way is "just having fun rustling jimmies" a good and moral way to spend your time?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: foragedfungus]
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Lol, well its certainly not immoral to do so. They are playing along with it


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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ROFL. best post in a while.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Quote:
covid will never leave our eco system


right but it could have. Which is what I said

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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trees said:
I cant trust you since you have never posted or offered up a convincing argument. All your posts read in the tone of a father explaining in legth what good behavior is to his downsyndrome 5 YO son who was naughty.



The unvaccinated are retarded, how else would you talk to them?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
Quote:
covid will never leave our eco system


right but it could have.


That seems completely unrealistic to me, like saying we can remove the common cold of the flu from existence?


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: viraldrome]
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viraldrome said:
trees said:
I cant trust you since you have never posted or offered up a convincing argument. All your posts read in the tone of a father explaining in legth what good behavior is to his downsyndrome 5 YO son who was naughty.



The unvaccinated are retarded, how else would you talk to them?


I'm telling you man, every mentally retarded person I've talked to has been vaccinated and proud of it. It's been sort of impressive. The unvaccinated have a type of stupid that seems to be more like that of a teenager that won't listen when you tell them it's a bad idea to shit on roof of a police car and post it on tiktok. It's the kind of stupid that defies reasonable explanation. You can see how emotionally unstable lots of these people are when their ideas get challenged. It's sort of like they're acting out. Adults have been throwing temper tantrums about this stuff throughout most of the pandemic.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
morrowasted said:
Quote:
covid will never leave our eco system


right but it could have.


That seems completely unrealistic to me, like saying we can remove the common cold of the flu from existence?


The flu, no. It’s a very different type of virus with reservoirs in all kinds of animals and a structure that allows it to swap antigens. We are capable of eliminating coronaviruses from the human population. We did it with sars. The disease still exists in animals, but we could get rid of covid if humans weren’t so self centered and irresponsible. It’s too late now.


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