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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: doubleD]
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doubleD said:
You can't wait huh? You "vaccine" people are really sadistic.
All because.. I'm wary of our shady government and pharmaceutical companies, one who paid the largest criminal fine in world history, making decisions about my employment suitability based on whether I've had gene therapy to not protect me, but just to keep me out of the hospital in case I catch....... a Chinese fever.


It's always a good idea to learn from other peoples stupidity. I'm just watching the bad decisions happen, you're the one making the bad decisions, and I'm all for that not happening, even if it means taking responsibilities and choices away from you so you don't hurt yourself and other people.

I'm also not sure what you're talking about with that rant. From what I can tell you think that purdue, which you believe is the government, is going to decide that you shouldn't be hired at some unspecified company because you've somehow had unapproved gene therapy done on you, and that gene therapy is connected to you being hospitalized and ranting about something called a Chinese fever. Even though none of that makes sense, I'm worried you might end up in the hospital anyway. Are you okay, man? Lots of people end up with a new psychiatric diagnosis after they get covid. You might want to get checked out if you're incoherently ranting about tangential nonsense like this all the time. It's got to be hard to function like that.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 4
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Mr.GuessWork said:
You're looking for a copout way to justify your decision to not get vaccinated without really doing the work to understand what motivates that decision.


I think that's really unfair to say. I've thought about it and discussed it with friends endlessly. I'm a philosopher; a deep thinker by nature. And having done so in regards to the 'hot topic' in the world right now, I conclude that it is not something I want to get. I very nearly turned down the job of my dreams - which I started last week - when they gave me the 'no vaccine = no job' ultimatum. Thankfully my new boss is a reasonable man, said 'that's fucking retarded' and pulled the strings required to get the bureaucrats off my back about it.

I'm not one of these American freedom nutters, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist - I think you know this about me. However what I see happening troubles me deeply, and, like many other 'hot button' issues I've encountered in this life, I am choosing to make a stand on it. And you know one of the things that solidifies my belief that I'm making the right choice? It's when people say things like this:

Mr.GuessWork said:
you're confused and why you haven't made a good decision .. yet.


Honestly, a lot of the pro vax lot have shown some real ugly colours - IMO - when the subject comes up. The rhetoric I hear from that side sickens me more than the rhetoric I hear from the other.

I haven't made a good decision.. because I didn't make the one that you did? I'm not worthy of respect because.. I'm not doing what you/most are?

That kind of attitude troubles me more than just about anything else I see/hear regarding this whole thing.


It's like drinking and driving...a couple people who like doing it are like "I want the freedom to do what I want, it's my car, it's my choice!"

Then you have most people, who are like "You're an idiot and your friend who also likes drinking and driving killed my grandmother and my cousin so fuck you I hope you hit a pole instead of a person next time" and you're over here like "*gasp* this side is name-calling and wishing death upon the other, while the other side just wants to be free from tyranny and government overreach!"


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deCypher said:
Schizophrenia beats dining alone, you know.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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"Just trust the pharmaceutical companies guys.. it's easy and they're safe and effective and no one is hiding anything from you."
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-wants-until-2076-fully-release-pfizer-vaccine-data-lawsuit


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teach your kids to recognize and despise all the propaganda

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ima Trooper]
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I must say, that analogy makes no sense to me whatsoever.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: doubleD]
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doubleD said:
"Just trust the pharmaceutical companies guys.. it's easy and they're safe and effective and no one is hiding anything from you."
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-wants-until-2076-fully-release-pfizer-vaccine-data-lawsuit



They’re asking for hundreds of thousands of documents to be released. Those documents have to be scrubbed of personal details, privacy issues, and relevance. Lawyers have to go through each page. You get 500 pages a day max.

You people are so easily manipulated


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/18/21 02:02 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
I must say, that analogy makes no sense to me whatsoever.


How so?

I admit it's more of a stretch, very few people are pro-drunk-driving. But the irresponsibility to others is equitable. I don't care what "anecdotal opinions" people have regarding the increased healthcare burden, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if a bunch of people are in the hospital in serious condition because of COVID, that's extra medical care and massive amounts of money going towards caring for people who could almost completely have avoided it entirely.


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"Its moving of its own accord...and I like that in a shirt!" - Me, tripping.

deCypher said:
Schizophrenia beats dining alone, you know.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Mr.GuessWork said:
You're looking for a copout way to justify your decision to not get vaccinated without really doing the work to understand what motivates that decision.


I think that's really unfair to say. I've thought about it and discussed it with friends endlessly. I'm a philosopher; a deep thinker by nature. And having done so in regards to the 'hot topic' in the world right now, I conclude that it is not something I want to get. I very nearly turned down the job of my dreams - which I started last week - when they gave me the 'no vaccine = no job' ultimatum. Thankfully my new boss is a reasonable man, said 'that's fucking retarded' and pulled the strings required to get the bureaucrats off my back about it.

I'm not one of these American freedom nutters, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist - I think you know this about me. However what I see happening troubles me deeply, and, like many other 'hot button' issues I've encountered in this life, I am choosing to make a stand on it. And you know one of the things that solidifies my belief that I'm making the right choice? It's when people say things like this:

Mr.GuessWork said:
you're confused and why you haven't made a good decision .. yet.


Honestly, a lot of the pro vax lot have shown some real ugly colours - IMO - when the subject comes up. The rhetoric I hear from that side sickens me more than the rhetoric I hear from the other.

I haven't made a good decision.. because I didn't make the one that you did? I'm not worthy of respect because.. I'm not doing what you/most are?

That kind of attitude troubles me more than just about anything else I see/hear regarding this whole thing.



This is one of those times when you have to act and think at almost the same time, as opposed to stopping and thinking, which is more in line with deep philosophical thought. The need to act promptly limits some options in the decision making process, and that introduces some necessary risk taking that may seem strange and uncomfortable, but it makes sense to people who were familiar with it, and have had the time to properly think about it in deep ways. Those are the guys in charge behind the scenes on vaccination stuff. Any type of developed thought requires trust in other peoples ideas and study, and right now, the people who are developing vaccines and studying public health are the ones who have the right background to do the type of thinking we need. Deep philosophy for the rest of us is a luxury if we take the advice, and it's a liability if we don't.

A good start for the basis of what makes the decision good or bad, at least in my reasoning, is an evaluation of the costs, benefits, and outcomes of that decision. Good decisions ideally have low costs with high benefits and/or good outcomes, and bad decisions have high costs and low benefits and/or bad outcomes. What's making me judge your decision as bad is that you aren't addressing it's costs, benefits, and outcomes in any reasonable way, particularly when those costs/benefits/outcomes are clear and well explained (that's not a judgement on you per se, but on your choice and the circumstances surrounding it, since I know you can appreciate the difference). Your assessment of the quality of your decision seems detached from it's impact on reality. I'm not sure about your work scenario. You may work entirely from home, and then I can understand why they broke rules for you since it's a low risk decision for them, but if you're stuck in an office with other people, then your decision has a large potential to harm you and other people, and the evidence clearly demonstrates that. If you're being reasonable, then you have to accept that as a fact, and if you're being respectful of other people, then you have to address the harm you're causing, because you have an easy and low-cost/high-benefit way to prevent the harm and you're choosing not to do it, and as far as I can tell, you have offered no good reasoning for your refusal. That's what is not worthy of respect, and it's not worthy of respect because it's a disrespectful and harmful thing to do. If you're going to put other people in harms way, then you at least owe them a decent explanation.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
doubleD said:
"Just trust the pharmaceutical companies guys.. it's easy and they're safe and effective and no one is hiding anything from you."
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-wants-until-2076-fully-release-pfizer-vaccine-data-lawsuit



They’re asking for hundreds of thousands of documents to be released. Those documents have to be scrubbed of personal details, privacy issues, and relevance. Lawyers have to go through each page. You get 500 pages a day max.

You people are so easily manipulated 


And you're an easily spotted shill who changes the goalposts with each Anthony fauci appearance on MSNBC
55 years dog. 55 years. You're a joke if you believe that's acceptable


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: doubleD]
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It’s a foia request. They have to look at every document to see if it is covered under the request


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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I'm a philosopher; a deep thinker by nature...

Jesus wept a dogs fucking bollock. It's a wonder you don't gag on the stench of the backed up bullshit you spout you're so full of it.
I'm yet to come across such a pompous arsed fucking wannabe Englishman in real fucking life, and hope I never do.
I wonder if they that made you mod weren't exhibiting an Anglophobic trait, in that they perceive you, due to your eccentric verbosity, as some quintessential Engishman, when you are in fact a fucking parody...forsooth!

What are you listening to right now.



:lol:

Edited by deucedbi9 (11/18/21 03:47 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork] * 1
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Mr.GuessWork said:
, then you have to address the harm you're causing, because you have an easy and low-cost/high-benefit way to prevent the harm and you're choosing not to do it, and as far as I can tell, you have offered no good reasoning for your refusal. That's what is not worthy of respect, and it's not worthy of respect because it's a disrespectful and harmful thing to do. If you're going to put other people in harms way, then you at least owe them a decent explanation.


This philosophy doesnt apply well to reality. Most people have taken the boosters and many will continue to do so, thus they should be protected from the "harm" caused by these disrespectful unvaxed folks you speak of. Plus add to this that many unvaxxed folks have already had covid and recovered OK and now have robust antibodies to it so they dont NEED to double down and apply a booster shot to their pre-existing immunity. Theyre above or on equal level of immunity to the vaxed folks.

If your no vax fat diabetic grandma dies of covid, you should be mad at HER not the guy who passed it to her or even the vaxed person who also full well may have passed it to her.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: deucedbi9]
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deucedbi9 said:
I'm yet to come across such a pompous arsed fucking wannabe Englishman in real fucking life, and hope I never do.


LOL, I love you too mate.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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trees said:
If your no vax fat diabetic grandma dies of covid, you should be mad at HER not the guy who passed it to her or even the vaxed person who also full well may have passed it to her.


Given the ease of getting the vax in the western world now, I think this suggestion has, and will only have moreso as time goes by, much merit.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees] * 1
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trees said:
Mr.GuessWork said:
, then you have to address the harm you're causing, because you have an easy and low-cost/high-benefit way to prevent the harm and you're choosing not to do it, and as far as I can tell, you have offered no good reasoning for your refusal. That's what is not worthy of respect, and it's not worthy of respect because it's a disrespectful and harmful thing to do. If you're going to put other people in harms way, then you at least owe them a decent explanation.


This philosophy doesnt apply well to reality. Most people have taken the boosters and many will continue to do so, thus they should be protected from the "harm" caused by these disrespectful unvaxed folks you speak of. Plus add to this that many unvaxxed folks have already had covid and recovered OK and now have robust antibodies to it so they dont NEED to double down and apply a booster shot to their pre-existing immunity. Theyre above or on equal level of immunity to the vaxed folks.

If your no vax fat diabetic grandma dies of covid, you should be mad at HER not the guy who passed it to her or even the vaxed person who also full well may have passed it to her.



How about all the people in nursing homes who got vaccinated and are dying from covid anyway? how about kids? how about immunocompromised people? how about people who got breakthrough infections because spread of the disease hasn't been slowed and the R number remains high due to a lack of vaccination? Have you thought about long term consequences of accumulated morbidity from unchecked infection and spread? Have you considered that you might not have considered all the details that went into these decisions?

I don't think you understand reality well enough to criticize philosophy, and I'm not going to waste too much of my time explaining my response to JSB to you since you can't be bothered to read or ask decent questions. You seem to really believe that you know public health, immunology, and virology better than people who've spent their lives studying these subjects, and it's sad to see you waste the opportunity to learn from them like this. Nothing you said in that post is supported by evidence, and lots of it has been shown to be false. You're a great example of why we need mandates though. Education will never reach you in time to save you or people around you, and that's sad too. You should hold yourself to a higher standard.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees] * 1
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trees said:
Mr.GuessWork said:
, then you have to address the harm you're causing, because you have an easy and low-cost/high-benefit way to prevent the harm and you're choosing not to do it, and as far as I can tell, you have offered no good reasoning for your refusal. That's what is not worthy of respect, and it's not worthy of respect because it's a disrespectful and harmful thing to do. If you're going to put other people in harms way, then you at least owe them a decent explanation.


This philosophy doesnt apply well to reality. Most people have taken the boosters and many will continue to do so, thus they should be protected from the "harm" caused by these disrespectful unvaxed folks you speak of. Plus add to this that many unvaxxed folks have already had covid and recovered OK and now have robust antibodies to it so they dont NEED to double down and apply a booster shot to their pre-existing immunity. Theyre above or on equal level of immunity to the vaxed folks.

If your no vax fat diabetic grandma dies of covid, you should be mad at HER not the guy who passed it to her or even the vaxed person who also full well may have passed it to her.


This lack of insight you display is exactly why we need mandates. You just don’t get it. You never will.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Wtf is going on here lol. Chief that south park meme was on point. Jokesockbeers, god. People believing in Nazis is not like believing in science.
#freedom ha

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: QM33]
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I did enjoy the eric cartman post. forgot to throw props to that one. That little shit would make sure everyone else got vaccinated if he put his mind to it.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork] * 1
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Mr.GuessWork said:
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How about all the people in nursing homes who got vaccinated and are dying from covid anyway?

the vaxed can still give them covid even through a mask
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how about kids?

kids dont really suffer from covid 
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how about immunocompromised people?

vaxed people can still pass it to them
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how about people who got breakthrough infections because spread of the disease hasn't been...

because covid will never go away.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees] * 2
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Quote:
kids dont really suffer from covid


Covid has killed more kids than all other infectious diseases combined this past year. The relative risk to kids is much lower than adults but covid is still one of the leading causes of death in children.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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Sounds like bullshit. The only kids to die of it had life threatening pre existing diseases


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Trees is dead, this is his mum posting



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