Munchauzen said:

everytime you shake your cubes, you are weakening the culture. this is why you want to reduce the number of shakes to as few as possible. 1 shake, at 30% is all you want.

no need to experiment when this shit has been thousands of times before you and figured out already. 

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bodhisatta said:

I don't believe in the weakening mycelium from shakes hypothesis. Is there real evidence that it reduced yield or performance ? I've left jars at 100 shook, forgot to spawn. So shook again the next week. Those jars get shook 3-4 times vs 1-2. If there's a difference its basically immeasurable

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Ziran said:

Eh its hit or miss. clean spawn will preform reguardless of shakes. Most likely the shake at 30% would aid the culture in colonizing the jar quicker.

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cronicr said:

Shake 4 times if ya want

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no more though cause then its playing with yourself

its more about WHY you need to shake a jar 50 times than it is the act. why shake more than twice MAX? all other reasons for a third are sketch.

mushboy said:

cronicr said:

Shake 4 times if ya want

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no more though cause then its playing with yourself

its more about WHY you need to shake a jar 50 times than it is the act. why shake more than twice MAX? all other reasons for a third are sketch.

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shaking is fun 

Ziran said:

Eh its hit or miss. clean spawn will preform reguardless of shakes. Most likely the shake at 30% would aid the culture in colonizing the jar quicker.

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cronicr said:

Shake 4 times if ya want

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lionsmanenew said:

Hi All,

Noob here on second bulk grain attempt. First was a failure - it seemed my jars all turned to slush after shaking the first time.

I've got 3 mycobags on the go, with 3 jars too (so don't have to rebuy syringes).

I'm a bit paranoid that I've managed to damage the bigger jar's contents - as it looks like it's going to a watery grave. See pics.

I've been planning to transfer these into a further bulk mycobag - using Ohm's Tek.

I was very happy with the moisture content on completing my jars/bags about 2 weeks ago (after a wet first attempt).

The jars seem to be going very slowly - 2 weeks + now!

The big jar got a good shaking and now I can see condensation all over.

Am I going wrong with the shaking here do you think? Or, is it something else?

The jars have 4 drilled holes covered with micropore. The temps are running at just under 30 C.

Does this big jar need to be chucked out? If can be saved - presumably remove excess moisure somehow?

Also, how long can properly steralized mycobags last? I've done 3 and injected 5ml spores from syringe into the sides (at same time as jars). One bag was done a few day earlier - I broke up it's mycellium growth and spread through bag as a test. This one now has no sign of growth and is also looking wet inside.

What am I do doing wrong with the shaking and why is it getting wet after the grain mositure level seemed so good after completing tek.

Any help for my noobly self would be hugely appreciated!

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