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Invisibletruekimbo2
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swami, may i come take your challenge?
    #2722504 - 05/24/04 11:37 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

hi swami, i was wondering if i could come to las vegas this month to take your challenge. a couple months to a year ago you said you had legal documents already written up and such, could you pm me about that and i'll give you my email address?

"i will start by spinning a single pinwheel in a direction. once i have spent probably about 20 minutes warming up the pinwheel will not stop until i say i'm going to stop it, or until i am signifigantly externally distracted. i will then change the direction of the spin and do the same.
then i will spin two pinwheels in opposite directions at the same time.
then i will spin three pinwheels kind of randomly.
then i will spin a pinwheel without having any body part near it.

during this demonstration i will require one room with no natural air currents.
i will require that poeple observing not move around, and wear something to cover thier mouth and nose to rule out breath moving it (as i will do)
if you want, i can bring magnets and electromagnets to count out electromagnetic causes.
i will wear heavy gloves if you like to cancel out "heat from your hand"

before the demonstration i will ask everyone to observe the pinwheel for several minutes, paying special attention to the pinwheel at rest, the pinwheel at rest with my hand next to it. the way the pinwheel moves when i breathe on it, the way the pinwheel moves when poeple move around and air currents push it. and finally the way the pinwheel moves when its just at rest (I.E. how much random air currents there are in the room and how strongly this affects the pinwheel)

i ask that you supply a couple thumbtacks and a peice of paper.

if there is anything else you can think of that would make this demonstration not credible, please get it out of the way now, i'm more than happy to work with you on figuring out if there could be any other factors involved, and i will test them extensively on my own before i go all the way to canada to make sure i haven't been deluding myself this whole time (although i've moved other stuff too, just the pinwheel is the only thing i can do reliably).
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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2722580 - 05/24/04 11:55 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Can you not do anything but the pinwheel? Nothing on a larger scale? I find it kind of odd that all of those that can do 'TK' use a pinwheel  :nut:

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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2722897 - 05/24/04 01:00 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Can you spin a pinwheel which is located under a glass bowl?


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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2722920 - 05/24/04 01:05 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

whos paying for this ticket to vegas? or will you drive?


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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: CleverName]
    #2723983 - 05/24/04 05:05 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

i can do stuff other than the pinwheel, but not with great regularity and certainly not in a preassure situation.

sometimes i can do it under glass, mostly i can't though, once again i wouldn't want to say i can do it under glass if 20k was at stake.

actually, a fellow shroomerite without meeting me, without being able to do TK himself (as far as i know) and without wanting to meet me in advance has offered to pay for my bus ticket to las vegas if swami agree's to set this up proper


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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2724008 - 05/24/04 05:14 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I hope you guys film the experienec!

Looking forward to what will happen!

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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2724054 - 05/24/04 05:27 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

excellent, best wishes


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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2724342 - 05/24/04 06:56 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

If you can move the pinwheel,why would you not be able to do it as easily under pressure while its under a bowl.I dont think a bowl would have any effect on TK if it is real.


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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: HypnoToad]
    #2724467 - 05/24/04 07:37 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

No, it is considerably harder. Some speculate that the only reason it is harder under something is because we expect it will be, while others think it being a solid is harder to penetrate than air with whatever causes telekinesis to work. But ya, ubder glass is harder.

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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2724596 - 05/24/04 08:11 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

um Swami are you going to reply? He seems to have his stuff togethor and has covered many possible angles? Are you allowing him to come visit you? I sure hope so cause you have boasted teh Swami challenge a long time
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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2724639 - 05/24/04 08:19 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Are you trying to call his bluff, or what?


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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2724677 - 05/24/04 08:27 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

How is posting in this thread gonna get his attention to this thread any sooner?

Maybe you could spam his mind with telepathic thoughts : )

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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2724802 - 05/24/04 08:53 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Try sending him a PM :wink:


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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: trendal]
    #2724825 - 05/24/04 08:59 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I sent him a telepathic message just now. He should be arriving shortly :smirk:


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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2725062 - 05/24/04 09:39 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

You should also do a number of random trials where you have no telekinetic intent, to establish whether or not you intentions can actually be differentiated from random events.

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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: Phencyclidine]
    #2725186 - 05/24/04 10:04 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

what the hell do you care phen? you've shown your level of interest in my claim in the other thread.

but he is correct. as part of the trail all observers will be required to watch the pinwheel for a long boring amount of time, just so they know the differnce bettween me attempting to do telekinesis and the pinwheel's natural momevment or lack there-of


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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2725881 - 05/25/04 12:34 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

try something bigger, like the weather, its more impressive if you spend a bit concentrating real hard as a storm starts and then watch the radar as the storm parts about a mile away and then re-joins itself a mile away.. 'cause that way, even if you're lying you're at least lying big

but seriously i've done that more than once, don't claim to have powers. just happens.
tho more opwer to you if you can actually prove soemthing

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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #2726021 - 05/25/04 01:09 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

shrug, you're only going to get more darth vader.


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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2726296 - 05/25/04 03:00 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm... getting an ordinary pinwheel to spin while housed inside glass would be most impressive.

If you were successful, I would personally see to it that you be given the opportunity to take Randi's $1 million challenge. Though a small feat, if it is proven to be truly due to telekinesis (and not a magic trick), you should be given a helluva lot of money to further research such a phenomenon.


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Re: swami, may i come take your challenge? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2726298 - 05/25/04 03:02 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Hell, I'd even settle for a simple asbestos tile (or some other very good insulator) between your hand and the pinwheel. Do you require eye contact with the pinwheel?


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