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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Swami]
    #2200292 - 12/24/03 11:10 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Swami]
    #2200357 - 12/24/03 11:44 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I'd take you up but:

1) No $20,000

2) If the 2012 shift in consciousness occurs, money will be worthless besides being paper


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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Shroomism]
    #2200387 - 12/25/03 12:08 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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2) If the 2012 shift in consciousness occurs, money will be worthless besides being paper




Exactly.

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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Effed]
    #2200513 - 12/25/03 01:44 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

But it would make for good kindlin in the fire.
Besides if you paid any attention, the 2012 shift is into the 5th dimension, which is non-physical.. so money would be worthless three times over. Ahh the Swamster and his bag o' tricks. heheheh.
But I will take an advance, which I will use to create a prototype for my perpetual energy device.  :laugh:


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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Swami]
    #2200793 - 12/25/03 09:42 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

There are plenty of observable signs which indicate a preamble toward a dramatic shift in paradigms. Whether or not these observations can be paired with the coming of 2012 is only speculation. The division forming in the physics community as a large branch of it begins to move away from the vision of the mechanistic universe and world view is one glaring indication. Over the past thousand years, the views of the great minds of physics have directly paralleled the views of the surrounding cultures and religious systems. The overwhelming crassness of consumerism and it's ever-accelerating regurgitation of ideas can be thought of as another. The growing dissatisfaction with the state of affairs seen with each consecutive decade, another.

We don't have to look to ancient Maya, the I Ching, or the eccentric musings of Terence McKenna to see that the surface of this here pond is beginning to boil. Though, they make some striking points that resonate eerily well with new developments.


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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Ped]
    #2200955 - 12/25/03 01:27 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Exactly, the shift is already in progress, and a certain few people will try to hold everyone back. I personally don't think we are entering a 5-th dimension or something like that, we can't just be rid of our bodies and become beings of light or whatever in the next 8 years. No fucking way a 12th planet is coming, unless 2 new planets are discovered in our solar system in the next 8 years. To all you Planet X supporters, THERE ARE 9 PLANETS CURRENTLY IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM (and Pluto shouldn't even count).

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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Frog]
    #2200972 - 12/25/03 01:47 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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Frog said:
I believe that those of us who are currently the outcasts of society will become necessary for the period about whic we are talking.


Where is Renegade?




I was just about to give you shit for posting what I said like it was your own & then I saw the second post.  :tongue:

"First not by choice and now by choice" is a good way of putting it.  I'm guessing that's how it was for a lot of us - sucked when I was a kid, but I'm damn glad I'm not a part of mainstream society now.

So, I definitely don't see the term "outcast" as a negative.  Whether by divine plan or just coincidence, I don't know, but I think it's interesting that those of us who are most open to feeling the upcoming changes are the ones who are on the fringes of society.  We each have our own reasons for being on the fringe (nonconformity, age/youth, race, poverty, insanity, drug use, whatever), but there seem to be some common feelings that cut across all demographics.

If you think about it in terms of the 2012 prophecies, it makes even more sense.  We have to be the ones who will bring about the changes because very few who are part of mainstream society want the system to fall apart.  They'd lose the security they prize so dearly, but that is much less important to someone who has all their material possessions in a backpack...or a pickup truck. :smile:

Also, if we are supposed to go through this change toward a more compassionate global community, that's going to require things like leadership and communication.  When the infrastructure starts falling apart and the people set up their own communes/villages/whatever, none of them are going to trust a corporate suit who shows up to guide them through the endtimes.  Someone who's been living on the fringes their whole life will have more credibility than the guy who was part of the sellout of humanity that led to the collapse.

Oops, that got a bit long (big fuckin surprise), but I don't think I explained it very well the other night 'caues I was tired.


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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Renegade8]
    #2201081 - 12/25/03 03:23 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I'll put 20$ on orange. Go orange!!!


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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Renegade8]
    #2201090 - 12/25/03 03:31 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Thought you explained it well the other night, but this explanation was much better.


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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Renegade8]
    #2201203 - 12/25/03 05:56 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

>> Also, if we are supposed to go through this change toward a more compassionate global community, that's going to require things like leadership and communication.

These are secondary, in my opinion, to the simple large-scale realization of the absolute necessity of a compassionate global community for our health and happiness. Such a view is already gaining much ground.


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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: chodamunky]
    #2201354 - 12/25/03 09:23 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

No fucking way a 12th planet is coming, unless 2 new planets are discovered in our solar system in the next 8 years. To all you Planet X supporters, THERE ARE 9 PLANETS CURRENTLY IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM (and Pluto shouldn't even count).

Actually, it's based on the Mayan observations whom counted the sun and moon as planets.


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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Shroomism]
    #2201385 - 12/25/03 09:58 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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Actually, it's based on the Mayan observations whom counted the sun and moon as planets.




So if you just admitted Mayan's were dumb enough to believe that the sun wasn't a star and the moon wasn't a natural occuring satellite, why do you have faith that they are smart enough to predict the paradigm shift 2000 some years in advance??? Also, how come the mayans didn't predict their own end???


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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Shroomism]
    #2201397 - 12/25/03 10:08 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Where is the 12th Planet if it exists, Shroomism?


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Re: Swami's $20,0012 2012 Challenge [Re: Phluck]
    #2201705 - 12/26/03 04:16 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

"That kind of deal, and they won't want to part with their money.

Unless you can convince them that with the new conciousness shift, money is no longer needed."

Dude that was very profound for me....

heh makes me think about a lot of people who are making a lot of money right now on books that kind of imply something like that.. "so buy my book because you won't even need your money anymore soon, and I'll tell you why.. in my book. :wink:"


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Re: Swami's $20,0012 2012 Challenge [Re: Strumpling]
    #2201982 - 12/26/03 10:40 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

"Did I say you wouldn't need your money? Oh, I meant wouldn't have your money. Yeah. You spent it on my book."


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Re: Swami's $20,0012 2012 Challenge [Re: Phluck]
    #2202439 - 12/26/03 04:00 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

i assume that the shift in consciousness will be at least in part due to enormous technological improvement.  does that count as part of the bet?

keep in mind we're already able to teach monkies to control robot arms with just some wires going into thier brains and they recently invented something 20,000 times faster than cable over the same size wires :smile:


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Re: Swami's $20,0012 2012 Challenge [Re: truekimbo2]
    #2202501 - 12/26/03 04:51 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, well, we've been making crazy leaps in technology for a long time, and while change keeps happening, and it never ceases to amaze, there's no evidence that in 2012 we'll make some kind of insane leap. While the speed of technological development is speeding up, conciousness, spirituality and morality don't seem to be changing.


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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2202539 - 12/26/03 05:19 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Also, how come the mayans didn't predict their own end???

I think they did.

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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: Swami]
    #2202624 - 12/26/03 06:09 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

The tenth, eleventh, and twelvth planets just might already be here....

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Re: Swami's $20,012 2012 Challenge [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2202663 - 12/26/03 06:32 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Good find, fireworks. And interesting. So we could instantaneously have 2 or 3 more planets, depending on whether the scientists come up with a definition for what constitutes a planet.


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