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OfflineFrog
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Beauty School Drop-Out
    #2689999 - 05/17/04 04:34 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

First, I'm not a beauty school drop-out. I completed the 2000 hours that California requires for someone to take the state exam to be a cosmetologist.

Second, I don't know why I picked that title for this thread except that that was the first thing that popped into my mind.

But here's the issue: If you wanted to drop out of society, what would you do? Where would you go? How would you live?

We've talked on other threads about "the Man", and dropping out of society. If you wanted to get away from the man, what would you do? would you still use the internet?

And let's just say you wanted to give up. What if you were tired of dealing with society and the rules and all the people. What would you do to get away from it all?


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Frog]
    #2690016 - 05/17/04 04:45 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: ]
    #2690043 - 05/17/04 05:05 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

How would you afford to live there? I'm not trying to challenge you. I'm just trying to figure out how one would drop out. It's all well and good to talk about it, but how would one do it? I'm looking for concrete answers here.


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: ]
    #2690047 - 05/17/04 05:06 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I would trek to the Himalayan Mountains, and live in a lush, green valley, nestled in the foothills, hidden in the mist.

-how would you feed yourself? how would you get chinese citizenship?

"We've talked on other threads about "the Man"

what is this "man" you speak of?


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Frog]
    #2690056 - 05/17/04 05:12 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

"If you wanted to drop out of society, what would you do? Where would you go? How would you live?"

I have dropped out of society.lol I live in a basement in my lair with my plants in my room.Those not worthy mustn't talk to me or touch things in my lair or they will face being bitten and chased by a madman.lol I'd live like a hermit like I currently do.And make trips for supplies and food once a week like I do.

"If you wanted to get away from the man, what would you do? would you still use the internet? "

The internet must be free...They cant take that from me.I am virtually non-existant.Sssshhhhh

"And let's just say you wanted to give up. What if you were tired of dealing with society and the rules and all the people. What would you do to get away from it all?"

I don't deal with society unless forced to on rare occasions which is practical never.I only talk to sane people and by sane people I mean people like me.Crazy mad mad people...(shakes his head)

To get away from it all I'd do what I do now.Live by a river in a fairly empty neighborhood excluding woods,river and animals.I'd live in my lair and not let anyone but those worthy enter.I'd ignore the world and society just as I do now and I'd avoid most if not all human contact as I do now. lmao

I'm a hermit and Im proud of it.  :tongue:


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Positronius]
    #2690063 - 05/17/04 05:17 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

what is this "man" you speak of?

You know, "the MAN" that everyone talks about, that makes you work for your paycheck, and that takes money out for taxes, and stuff like that.  :grin:


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: HypnoToad]
    #2690067 - 05/17/04 05:20 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I want to meet you.


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Frog]
    #2690069 - 05/17/04 05:21 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

this "MAN" guy sounds like a cheap excuse to think like an idiot and blame all of ones problems on a makeshift demon.


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Positronius]
    #2690081 - 05/17/04 05:26 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Personally, I don't believe in "the MAN". But when I posted that "Thief" thread a long time ago, many people made excuses for stealing because of "the Man". So, I just assume he exists.


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Positronius]
    #2690085 - 05/17/04 05:30 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Damn the man and all his rules.There are no rules if they dont catch you...hahahaha

Positronius...He works for the man..evil evil demon...I blame you Positronius Its all your fault Im a hermit

roflmao


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Frog]
    #2690091 - 05/17/04 05:35 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

There is ways to drop out of society as long as you don't get in a position where you may be fingerprinted. That's a dead giveaway.

It's possible to buy or steal someone else's personal records & assume their identity; or if you're careful you can find a deceased person's identity & 'papertrip' but that's not as easy as it was years ago.


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: wandrnshaman]
    #2690103 - 05/17/04 05:42 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

What are fingerprints?I dont have any.Ssssshhh.

The police may have my dna on file though.Long story.The short version is that I had to take a dna test to prove that I wasnt a man wanted in the area for a brutal stabbing near my old house.I looked exactly like the wanted poster with the artist's sketch.Which is funny because they dont have my fingerprints even though they may have filed my dna results away.Im pretty non existant.My neighbors dont know me,My name doesnt pass through many computers at all,etc.


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: HypnoToad]
    #2690106 - 05/17/04 05:44 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Wait....aren't you guys forgetting about karma???


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Frog]
    #2690118 - 05/17/04 05:52 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

(puts on a cheesy accent) We dont need no stinkin' karma. lmao

Karma is subjective to the person in my opinion.

It's what you intend to do really.If you intend to take another identity to hide or protect yourself from the world I dont see it as bad karma.However if you intend to take another identity to do bad things well then its bad karma.


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: HypnoToad]
    #2690488 - 05/17/04 10:36 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

the way i would drop out, would be to learn how to gorw my own food really well, learn to hunt,(already got the sewing down) save up some money, head out to B.C. build a samll cottage, and just do what i have to.
mabey learn some skill trades to make some cash. mabey once and a while go to an internet cafe to check out the shroomery. :P

thats what comes to mind for me. but personaly i don't mind 'the man' right now. and am happy living the way i am.


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Frog]
    #2690498 - 05/17/04 10:39 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

We've talked on other threads about "the Man", and dropping out of society. If you wanted to get away from the man, what would you do? 




Make enough money to become a "MAN", make a house in the middle of the Australian wilderness and invite my friends to trip parties the whole year.
The main idea behind this is to "use" the system for your own benefit and then exploit it by turning the benefit against it. Don't get me wrong, i don't want to destroy society, i just want to change it by driving it's own strength or channeling that strength to a new level of power and confidence. I'm i dreaming ? Are my expectations too high ? Maybe but i believe if most wealthy people bet in values like love, compassion and tolerance, this world would be a better place.
Try reading The anarchist banker " (another link) by Fernando Pessoa. Meanwhile, i'll give you something to start :wink:
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/37/books-bernhard.php
http://www.instituto-camoes.pt/escritores/pessoa/selectedprose.htm


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    #2690840 - 05/17/04 01:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Frog]
    #2691735 - 05/17/04 04:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

This is something I've given a lot of thought to. I think dropping out with money is key. Sure, you can live in a van down by the river, eat from a dumpster/hunt for cicadas, use leaves as toilet paper, but what about if you need medical treatment? The whole scenario is unsustainable in my mind. I mean I love nature, but that would be uncomfortable as hell in the long run. Dropping out that way would be trading one discomfort for another. Screw that.

I fully intend to move and leave society as soon as I can, or at least meet it when I choose on my terms. But I would always keep some social contacts for preserving mental balance. Being in a psychologically-closed feedback loop consisting of only yourself is dangerous over time. (Just ask Howard Hughes).

My home would be in the mountains of North Carolina or Tennessee at least until my parents pass on. Then I would probably move to the Sierra Nevadas. I would keep a garden and nursery chock full of shamanic plants and live out my days as a neuronaut, writer, artist, philanthropist, and all around fun-loving heretic until the universe has another mission for me.

I would always keep a spare room for my friends around the country who would like to get away from the rodent races for a weekend.

Right now this all just fantasy. But I have been taking practical steps to achieving my dreams. A few years ago I finally decided, "To hell with dreaming about something that will never happen. I am going to take steps to make it so." I should have a much better idea in a couple of months if this is all feasible.


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Jellric]
    #2691768 - 05/17/04 04:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

hunt for cicadas
Do you have any hunting tips or good recipes? I tried building little bamboo traps and making that horrid "SCREEEEEEE!" sound, but to no avail. :frown:

Then I would probably move to the Sierra Nevadas.
Funny, but I was almost thinking about going back to Ananda, the oldest spiritual community in the US, which happens to be in the Sierra Nevadas. It is a beautiful and serene place.


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Re: Beauty School Drop-Out [Re: Swami]
    #2692699 - 05/17/04 08:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I fully plan to 'drop out' of this bullshit excuse for a culture.
Next year im getting on a plane to coasta rice, where im gonna live with a coasta rican family working in community service and in the rainforest. Ill do that for 2 weeks, and maybe stay longer. From there im planning to go to mexico, and from there... who knows. And when my traveling urge is satisfied, ill either live as a buddhist monk somewhere in asia or else if i meet the right girl settle down wherever i most felt at home on my travels.

Plus ill do so many hallucinogenics that i will essentially 'drop out' from this reality...


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